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to say.....bring back Gordon!

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MangoMonster · 14/12/2011 21:11

Gordon Brown that is, at least he was qualified and knew what he was doing... Ok, I do have a bit of a crush, but I am trying to be objective...:)

Cameron, Clegg and Milliband are a joke...

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PeneloPeePitstop · 14/12/2011 22:47

It was! Growth was being stimulated. Cuts would still have to have happened but in a growing economy they wouldn't have been as hard.

I'll go look for the stats that back my assertion.

winterfox · 14/12/2011 22:48

we would understand being in it 'all together' if we really were and not seeing money being spent on 'free' schools and the like

it's really barmy politics and same old tory spin

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MangoMonster · 14/12/2011 22:49

The alternative would be something similar to negotiation, compromise, understanding and team work... Something Cameron doesn't get an has made clear with the Europe package mess... What did he seriously think would happen to the world markets.... Oh wait... He didn't think, he's a nonce.

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WhatGoodIsThis · 14/12/2011 22:50

um,sure, Penelope, until the proverbial shit hit the fan in Europe.

Sorry, I can't debate with someone who thinks things were going along tickety boo with Gordy at the helm and then Cameron & co showed up and it all went wrong.

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MangoMonster · 14/12/2011 22:50

Privatisation is a con, thought that would be obvious by now.

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ShirleyKnot · 14/12/2011 22:52

YANBU

Let's talk about the gold reserve - horrible, horrible mistake.

Let's talk about the swinging cuts EVERYWHERE that are bringing us to the brink of bankrupy - worse unemployed stats in 17 years.

And we keep going, keep cutting, keep fucking the poor - keep fucking us all. The media has us - and the vast majority of us are US - we are the ones bearing the brunt, we are the ones trying to survive on 300 quid a week and paying ever increasing car tax, petrol, food prices, clothes, public transport, energy, rent; mortgage rates are cheap, granted - at each others throats while the rich get richer (deferment on private JET TAX ANYONE? - 8bn owed by Vodafone anyone? Workfare programmes which basically equal slave labour for Asda, Tesco, Boots, Next etc...ANYONE?)

Do me a small fucking favour.

PeneloPeePitstop · 14/12/2011 22:52

Things were far from tickety boo. Mistakes were made but a recovery was starting to happen, immediately prior to the election our recovery was outstripping those of other G7 nations. It was a weak recovery but a recovery all the same.

Labour mistakes - warmongering, ATOS, gold reserves and I'm damn sure I can think of more given time.

PeneloPeePitstop · 14/12/2011 22:53

This govt could recover £150 BILLION through tax loopholes.
So could Gordon have done... another mistake.

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MangoMonster · 14/12/2011 22:53

whatgoodisthis that is kind of how it looks as an overview, vat up, petrol up, cuts...

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TheFarSide · 14/12/2011 22:55

Troisgarcons - I was frontline staff and renowned for my efficiency.

I don't think GB would have approved the closure of the careers and Connexions services.

The Tories are using the cuts as an excuse to implement their ideology - they have always wanted to cut back the public sector.

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MangoMonster · 14/12/2011 22:56

thefarside exactly, it suits them and they have an excuse, they couldn't actually give a f**k about the country as a whole.

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MangoMonster · 14/12/2011 22:57

It's a very short sighted view to not support everyone in the country... It will make everyone's lives worse off in the long run.

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ShirleyKnot · 14/12/2011 23:00

Inflation at 4%. Wage increases at 2% (Like FUCK, I've not received a pay rise if four fucking years) - figures rounded because I really CBA to read the stats again and further my own fucking depression about the whole situation

Who cares who the blame lies with at the end of the day? The bastard tories are cutting and sugically removing the poor - while blaming the labour government (sorry...but erm, are labour to blame for the entire global shithoop?) they can only get away with this bullshit for a year...MAX...and then people will (I hope) start to realise that the cuts are ideological rather than economically driven. WAKE UP.

We're all getting fucked up the harris and we're all wasting our time fighting each other.

applecrumbleandcream · 14/12/2011 23:04

Shirleyknot I wholeheartedly agree!!

MosEisley · 14/12/2011 23:05

thefarside, yes that is my fear, that the need to cut (which I support) is being used as an excuse to implement changes which the public would never normally support.

I still say GB was a disaster.

Ed Milliband is awful too.

We do need a decent opposition.

RoyalWelsh · 14/12/2011 23:06

What Shirley said.

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MangoMonster · 14/12/2011 23:19

As Gordon would say "I will listen and I will learn. I will strive to meet people's aspirations. I want to lead a government humble enough to know its place - where I will always strive to be - and that is on people's side.
Gordon Brown
Launching campaign to lead Labour Party, May 11, 2007.

Think I'll leave it at that, with my crush intact and stronger than ever! ;)

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MangoMonster · 14/12/2011 23:24

If anyone want to discuss in more detail the intricacies of Gordon's appeal, please feel free to pm me ;)

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LittleTyga · 14/12/2011 23:31

I thought our 'massive spending' and consequent debt increased because we had to bail out the banks after the Americans sold the world bad debt? Wasn't our gdp ok before we had to inject trillions in to the banking system? I don't see how GB was responsible for that? He had to do that otherwise we would have lost our homes, savings and pensions....or am I wrong?

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MangoMonster · 14/12/2011 23:35

Or if you're depressed about the state of the country and could do with a temporary pick me up... I thoroughly
recommend dancing around your living room or kitchen to - Dominic the Christmas donkey, prefebly with a toddler... Without works too. Happy Christmas :)

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NewGirlInTown · 14/12/2011 23:48

Winter fox you could not be more wrong. 13 years of overspending cannot be put right in 18 months let alone on the back of a global recession.
OP - GB " knew what he was doing" !! Laughing my ass off at that one, do you ever read a newspaper?

MrsWembley · 14/12/2011 23:48

You know, I don't know whether to feel depressed at the number of people here who honestly think GB was doing a good job (never mind the crushes some have talked aboutConfused), or happy that there are people on here who understand the reasons for the hard decisions the con-libs are having to make.

Heard today that due to the hard lines our government have taken the cost of borrowing for this country is comparatively low... That's just one example of the good job Osborne is doing ( though I completely understand

MrsWembley · 14/12/2011 23:49

Arghh...

completely understand why Cameron kept him out of the way during the election.Wink

inatrance · 14/12/2011 23:51

YANBU and I wanted to start this very thread. Anyone that blames GB for the current mess is quite stupid IMHO.

Not only is he in possession of a conscience, (something sadly lacking in the current govt) but he knew more about economics then Cameron, Osbourne and Clegg put together and could have steered us through this current shit and would NOT be attacking sick and disabled people whilst protecting his Investment Wanker mates at the expense of the rest of us. The rage I feel about this is unbelievable. Angry

Alas he was not pretty or charismatic enough though to get the votes though was he? Poor Gordon, I miss him.

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