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To ask what you think about young Christian marriages?

305 replies

Ihavewelliesbutitssunny · 28/11/2011 18:25

So over the last few years I've known a lot of young Christian couples who've got married at about 21-23 years old. The classic situation is Christian boy and girl meet at the CU at uni and then get married when they graduate. Obviously part of this is the belief that couples shouldn't have sex before they are married but I think another factor is that they have prayed through and considered their decision to get married and trust that if it is the right decision they should just go ahead and get married. There seems often to be a critical and confused response to this idea of getting married from non-Christians so I was interested to see the mumsnet response. I suspose the idea of waiting for sex and getting married young is something that a lot of couples did in the past and many of us have grandparents or perhaps parents who married young and have had very long (and in most cases) marriages.

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rycooler · 29/11/2011 15:53

These threads are for the anti - marriage/male/religion posters to try and take the piss - it doesn't work.
Just because someone can't recite the bible word for word (in 15 languages ) doesn't mean they're not real Catholics - who are you to decide how 'catholic' someone is? - you don't think getting married young is a good idea - fine - I couldn't give a toss quite honestly - you think religion is a load of bollocks? - fine - I couldn't give a toss about that either. I know some fantastic people who haven't got a religious bone in their body - and I know some Catholics who I wouldn't trust with my cat. I generally like people for who they are not whether they're pic'n'mixing their religion.

Hullygully · 29/11/2011 15:56

you are ignoring the point ry

rycooler · 29/11/2011 15:59

That is a possibilty hully yes.

kerala · 29/11/2011 16:03

Anecdotally the couples I know that followed the pattern described by the OP are all divorced or in the process of divorcing Sad.

MrGingleBells · 29/11/2011 16:04

ry, you're making false accusations there. I'm not taking the piss at all, I'm asking a straight forward question that seems to be provoking the ire of Catholics.

Nobody is saying someone should know every page of the bible. I am genuinely interested in how someone defines themselves as a Catholic when they reject fundamental edicts and teachings of their denomination.

And frankly the responses from Catholics are pretty poor.

Serenitysutton · 29/11/2011 16:07

I don't think faith (mine or anyone elses) is of any concern of anyone else, and it's not your place to dictate or question. Ultimately one must be at peace with themselves, and bugger what anyone else may think (even if that person is the current Pope)

However I am trying to explain why not all catholic women have 25 children, or why they may eat meat on Friday, or not believe in a virgin birth, or any of the other criteria other people think they must meet.

rycooler · 29/11/2011 16:08

I'm not referring to anyone in particular - I'm being generic.

Hullygully · 29/11/2011 16:10

I'm going with Serenity. Her views are fabbo.

MrGingleBells · 29/11/2011 16:22

I don't think faith (mine or anyone elses) is of any concern of anyone else

Well there are many many reasons why we should question peoples faith ( an extreme example being catholic priests sexually abusing children ) , but this is not the thread to discuss it.

LeQueen · 29/11/2011 16:43

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rycooler · 29/11/2011 17:15

So glad you're being entertained hully - just a shame you can no longer throw us to the lions eh? - lol

Hullygully · 29/11/2011 17:17

us?

whose us?

Ihavewelliesbutitssunny · 29/11/2011 17:19

Lots of more interesting points. I think in terms of the Cultural Catholic arguement. The cruicial thing that serenity just hit on is 'faith' as opposed to religion or culture. Being a Christian of whatever denomination means that you are someone who trusts in the fact that Jesus died in your place, thats the essential bit everything else follows on from that.

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CheerfulYank · 29/11/2011 17:21

I dunno what makes a Catholic a Catholic if they reject basic papal teachings. DH is a Catholic but doesn't have a lot of use for the Pope. I guess because he considers himself a Catholic, attends mass, etc?

That is actually the main reason I refuse to have DS raised as a Catholic...I won't have him taught the pope is infallible.

rycooler · 29/11/2011 17:25

Christians - they were thrown to the lions as entertainment in Ancient Rome.
I know you know that.

JamieComeHome · 29/11/2011 17:26

Ihave - it's the "following on" bits that are the whole problem for me. Like not having sex before marriage but doing everything but. I struggle to imagine why Jesus would care one way or the other.

JamieComeHome · 29/11/2011 17:27

... or should I say "everything butt?

sorry

samwellsbutt · 29/11/2011 17:35

ry that never happened. burned alive yes and other fun things but not ever thrown to the lions apparently.

samwellsbutt · 29/11/2011 17:37

i am with james why would jesus give a crap what you do with your dick/vagina , i use to think he cared obviously hence the marriage now i tend to think he would rather you were happy, no?

JamieComeHome · 29/11/2011 17:38

happy and nice

rycooler · 29/11/2011 17:40

Yes - it is a myth apparently, but it could be true.

MrGingleBells · 29/11/2011 17:49

cough *Cathars * cough

MrGingleBells · 29/11/2011 17:49

that certainly isn't a myth

JamieComeHome · 29/11/2011 17:56

interesting re: cathars

MrGingleBells · 29/11/2011 17:59

Fascinating I think. A wholly different perspective on Christianity wiped out by the Pope.