To find Jimmy Carr's latest 'joke' really disgusting and pathetic

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Jimmy Carr has done it again. Nor content with making deeply disrespectful and horrid jokes about soldiers, he has now made a joke about children with Down's Syndrome and the Sunshine Variety coaches that do so much to help these kids and others too.

I used to like him but he goes too far. I really think that some things should not be joked about. Why do some people feel the need to tell
Jokes like that?

Yet, I am also aware of the fact that we can't censor jokes, but I wish some comedians actually set out to make us laugh with properly funny jokes rather than the nasty shit that Jimmy has been peddling again.

I am the mother of a boy with Down Syndrome. He looks more like me than like any of his friends who also have DS.

I'm a big comedy fan and do not agree that any subject should be off-limits per se. However, jokes like this one confirm perceptions in the public mind which are wrong but on which the battle has not yet been won, as evidenced by the ignorance expressed by some posters here. It makes the task for those of us who have to convince the world at large that they don?t ?all look the same? and may not always be ?such happy little people? that little bit harder.

taking the piss out of disabled children is not funny. But then Carr is an obnoxious cunt.

If you had a learning disabled child you wouldn't find the joke funny because every time you set foot outside the house your child would be laughed at/pointed at/sighed at/tut tutted at. It gets boring and tiresome. People who are in the public eye should know better than to join in the taunting and bullying.

Although I didn't for one moment buy Ricky Gervais' explanation of naivety he did at least have the decency to respond when a mother explained to him what day to day life around Joe public is like when you have a learning disabled child.

I don't believe any subjects should be off limits for comediens. I believe in free speech.

Disability can be at the heart of funny stuff.

But the joke in question, along with Frankie Boyles hilarious face pulling, is just to mock, to stereotype, to laugh AT people, no children, with disabilities. It is the equivalent to the jokes Bernard Manning used to do about 'pakis'.
Not funny, not witty. Just jumping around grinning and saying 'laugh at the funny looking kids'. It makes fart jokes look like the pinnacle of sophistication.

Anyone who does that is just a cunt and a coward in my book. Anyone who found that joke funny is a wanker in my book.

I have a book. The big book of wankers.

What Pag said.

I hate Jimmy Carr, I don't find him funny in the slightest but I think YABU to have not just said

"AIBU to find Jimmy Carr really disgusting and pathetic"

Of course re the 'joke' (lose term), YADNBU :(

well said pag.

That joke and Ricky Gervais' use of mong are really different from the series with Warwick Davis IMO

I listened to Warwick Davis on the radio, although it's written by Gervais and Merchant - a lot of the situations are based on stuff that's actually happened to him. So that's laughing with him, definitely. You're laughing at the situation, not him and he's involved in it.

Jimmy Carr is basically going, DS causes specific characteristics...hahaha

Very well put pagwatch

I think if having a disabled child made me lose my ability to clearly see when a comedian is prejudiced against people with my child's condition and when they are just generally telling offensive jokes about everyone indiscriminately, then I would not be the person I am. I have an illness and would not find it any less funny if he told jokes about people with my condition. The idea of living in such a stuffy, uptight manner would be unbearable.

It is not the same as someone using derogatory terms designed to denigrate and belittle people with a disability.

Jimmy Carr has consistently made jokes designed to shock and his success on both sides of the pond should make it clear that many people are not so easily offended. I saw him when he was just starting out and he hasn't changed his style purely to get famous... I think he'd be rather disappointed if his jokes didn't offend anyone, tbh.

I also think it is ridiculous to start an entire debate on whether or not a comedian is 'funny' or 'offensive'. If you don't like his humour, don't watch his segments. I hate some comedian's jokes so I switch over if they come on, I don't get my knickers in a twist.

so how come, flyingspagetti, he doesnt make funny jokes ridiculouing black people or jews or Asians? Hmmm?

I know your Big Book of Wankers is totally fictional pag, (I think you never fucking know on here) but insinuating you'll remember who found jimmy carrs joke funny the next time you come across the poster, is as bad as sending shitty PMs.

I find most of his routine funny, does that make me a wanker? Or just a bit of a wanker? Maybe you could pencil me in as a possible wanker?

perhaps Pag was joking. I thought it was hilarious. Are you offended?

If that was to me Kal, I've got enough froth to start a foam party of my own.

You're invited...

tabulahrasa - that's interesting. I'd hoped that sort of thing couldn't possibly happen - naive of me

Living every day with derision and scorn, criticism for being benefit scrounging scum can make you feel under attack.

So then when someone in the public eye tells 'jokes' that aren't even funny that encourage yet more ignorance and bile towards your loved ones then it is not at all stuffy and uptight. Perhaps those that think it is would like to swap with us?

Incidentally all the kids at my son's special school who use the variety buses all look different weirdly enough. Except the twins

YAdefinitelyNBU. Comedians without creativity come up with the most vulgar horrid 'jokes' they can. I think he's a cruel bastard.

If these jokes and insulting names are 'just words', the people using them should get better at picking other words instead. If 'm*' means a stupid person, then why not say that? Because they know damn well that it doesn't just mean that.

This joke is clearly designed to offend people or make people groan at the very least. That's what he's going for - it gets people talking and keeps him in the public eye.

there does seem to be a new trend for jokes directed at children. I find the child abuse ones that crop up a fair bit on Channel 4 shows worrying

'that's interesting. I'd hoped that sort of thing couldn't possibly happen - naive of me'

I'd assume they're exaggerated for effect and he said that his reaction wouldn't necessarily be the reaction of the character in the show, but that things that he'd told them appeared in the script quite often.

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You misunderstood me I think. Probably my fault. But maybe not
I was adding Jimmy Carr.

I have no shit list, no grudges, no long term feelings about posters once a thread has closed. If they are indeed wankers I find the sooner I forget about them the better.

I also made specific reference to 'the joke'. So no. Your liking other bits of his act would not expose you to a degree of wankiness in my book.

Perhaps you initial interpretation, that I was being fanciful, may have served you better. Certainly linking what I said with someone else posting unpleasant private messages wasn't especially helpful.

I do enjoy the notion though that anyone who is mostly rational would actually have a big book of wankers though.
Mn is quite it's own bubble isn't it?

He's a really good actor. I just can't help thinking that he is still the butt of the joke - falling out of the car, getting "paid" back for his hubris at the wedding by wearing a teddy bear suit. Thinking about it, maybe there's no reason he shouldn't be a butt of a joke, just because he has dwarfism, and it's patronising to think he shouldn't.