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To find Jimmy Carr's latest 'joke' really disgusting and pathetic

543 replies

runningwilde · 25/11/2011 14:24

Jimmy Carr has done it again. Nor content with making deeply disrespectful and horrid jokes about soldiers, he has now made a joke about children with Down's Syndrome and the Sunshine Variety coaches that do so much to help these kids and others too.

I used to like him but he goes too far. I really think that some things should not be joked about. Why do some people feel the need to tell
Jokes like that?

Yet, I am also aware of the fact that we can't censor jokes, but I wish some comedians actually set out to make us laugh with properly funny jokes rather than the nasty shit that Jimmy has been peddling again.

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giyadas · 25/11/2011 15:33

I think you'll find that sexist and racist jokes are still very much part of these guys routines Dilly, just not as overt, or framed as ironic.

AgentZigzag · 25/11/2011 15:38

But you've missed the point of Ricky Gervais Dilly, he's not laughing at the person with a disability and encouraging everyone else to do the same, he's laughing at the people who treat someone in a wheelchair as a subspecies, idiots or like children.

He's made it quite obvious, unless you've misunderstood what you've seen to be how he really behaves instead of just a comedy sketch?

Sevenfold · 25/11/2011 15:41

RG is a wanker, he proved that by his use of the word M*.
I think people like him, Boyle. and carr do us a service, that take the piss out of disabled children/people and we can then see who the twats are by who laughs at the unfunny "jokes"

tocha · 25/11/2011 15:44

yanbu. and it's a bloody stupid and pointless joke anyway, implying children with disabilities all look the same Hmm wtf?

Dillydaydreaming · 25/11/2011 15:48

No I did not miss the point with RG - he used the term "Mong" to describe people who were in his view "stupid or idiots" then claimed he had no idea the term could be offensive to people with DS. An intelligent man as I said and far too intelligent not to realise that he was being pathetic even when he was pulled up on it. He even went on to defend his use of the term before someone (probably an advisor) said "FGS you prat just apologise". RG then took the advice and did so - but not before he had spent a few days being offensive to those who called him on his use of the term. So no I most certainly did NOT miss the point, the man WAS very funny and probably still is but has become so smug and up himself that I can't stand him any longer.

flyingspaghettimonster · 25/11/2011 15:55

Jimmy Carr is hilarious, he is equally offensive to anyone and everyone - personally if I had a down syndrome child I would rather people didn't steer away from jokes about them because to me that would be more offensive, like saying 'these people are special, so I can offend everyone except them'...

I'd rather listen to an intelligent comedian like Carr any day over the purile vomit that is Lee Evans.

Also, Jimmy Carr may say things to offend (like Frankie Boyle), but I don't believe for a minute that he is a racist, anti-disabled, evil person... unlike many other comedians who very clearly are racist...

AgentZigzag · 25/11/2011 15:55

Dilly, I used the word on here without knowing it was offensive to some, I had to apologise a few times before some posters accepted it.

If he used it, told it was offensive, he explained why he used it, didn't use it again, that's a result isn't it?

He'd be a twat if he carried on, but it shows how an audience has the power to control the boundaries of what's acceptable or unacceptable.

AteAWholePacketOfBiccys · 25/11/2011 16:16

'Jokes' about disabled children are not funny. Ever. No matter who tells them.

Sevenfold · 25/11/2011 16:25

see I have a disabled child and think anyone who makes jokes about them are wankers. end of. and would rather people "steered clear" of making joke about them.
these unfunny "jokes" just give the thugs and bullies and bigots more fuel

Peachy · 25/11/2011 16:37

'cantspel Fri 25-Nov-11 14:40:10
I find nothing funny about taking the piss out of disabled children.

Anyone who finds that sort of joke funny is as big a moron as Carr'

That. Yes. Plus anyone who fins it funny has a far greater absence of empathy than any autistic child (the disability my boys have) I have ever met. Which given I am researching empathy and asd is quite a lot.

'Dilly, I used the word on here without knowing it was offensive to some, I had to apologise a few times before some posters accepted it.

And other people would have accepted that, and indeed if I raise it these days with anyone I do quietly via a friendly heads up PM.

We are not one homogenous mass.

redhappy · 25/11/2011 16:40

flyingspaghetti 'if I had a down syndrome child I would rather people didn't steer away from jokes about them because to me that would be more offensive'

honestly? I'm not sure you would.

mrsravelstein · 25/11/2011 16:42

i totally understand the argument that it's comedy, and my head says why shouldn't jimmy carr/frankie boyle etc make jokes about whatever they like... but the heart says there are some things that just aren't funny... i found myself cringing hearing jimmy carr's jokes about paedophiles, yes i get it, i know he's just joking, but to me i just cannot find it amusing.

MincePieFlavouredVoidka · 25/11/2011 16:43

YANBU - vile man

Sevenfold · 25/11/2011 16:45

peachy luckily mn hq will now delete posts with words like m* in them

EnjoyResponsibly · 25/11/2011 16:55

To me the joke just isn't funny.

I generally find Jimmy Carr quite amusing, unlike the insufferable Gervais. When will he admit that Marchant is the real brains. It's getting like Lennon and McCartney.

But flying spaghetti yours was a beyond silly comment, and I'm willing to bet a lot you wouldn't like it one teeny bit. Hopefully you'll never really know.

mayorquimby · 25/11/2011 16:58

I know what you mean mrsravelstein, which is exactly why I side with the side who say "they can say what they like."
otherwise who gets to decide which persons subjective moral interpretation is the one we follow?

JamieComeHome · 25/11/2011 16:58

Nah, not a funny joke, not clever, and also offensive

JamieComeHome · 25/11/2011 17:02

I normally like Ricky Gervais. I "get" that he is taking the mickey out of smugness, celebrity and jumped-up people. I am finding the current programme unfunny and uncomfortable. The level of disrespect and abuse the character gets is upsetting, and rather than showing up the people who are doing it, there's an uncomfortable implication that he somehow deserves it because he has an inflated sense of his own importance

JamieComeHome · 25/11/2011 17:03

I have seen RG interviewed and I genuinely found him to be a nice bloke. The new show is missing its mark, for me

Blu · 25/11/2011 17:06

I read the joke and didn't understand it because (whatever StealthPenguin thinks) disabled children don't all look the same at all!

I think some stuff R Gervais has done is stupid and offensive - but that clip clearly ridicules the way people patronise and put disabled (and Egyptian) people in b oxes. It is about patronising stereotyping, not making fun of disability (or Egyptians)

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NinkyNonker · 25/11/2011 17:08

Yanbu. Pathetic.

Backtobedlam · 25/11/2011 17:10

Why would he even say that-I can't see how anyone would find that funny. It's just not. Mil jokes/sexist jokes are one thing, much easier to stomach I think, but someone taking the mick out of children with disability is just unacceptable

northernwreck · 25/11/2011 17:15

I fucking loathe "comics" like Jimmy Carr and Ricky Gervais. I saw RG on telly defending himself by saying "hey, it's just a word"
Funny though, I don't see him strutting about the stage saying "nigger" all the time, because it's just a word...
Men like that are basically socially inept, intellectually stunted cowards who pick on people who are vulnerable.
YANBU

tallwivglasses · 25/11/2011 17:22

Where's the bit about down's syndrome, op? Or is he implying that all disabled children look the same? Confused

He's not a comedian, he's an arsehole.

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