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wife thinks I can help more and very angry with me

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Homer1978 · 17/11/2011 20:24

I have a problem and I need your advice. I have a strong, beautiful, smart, ambitious wife. our gorgeous little Baby Girl is turning 4 months next week. My wife said the other night that even in Mumsnet they reckon that she is like a single mom. It crashed me.
I want you perhaps to show me the other side, perhaps I am doing something wrong, perhaps I need to change my perspective.

We have been married for 2 years, knowing each other 4, this is our first one. We love each other like crazy (or I can speak for myself).
I am running my own biz with 200 employees and offices around the world. I leave to work at 07:30 return at 18:00. In the last 4 months I can count on one hand the times I returned after 18:00 (at around 19:00), 3 of which were last week. I traveled abroad for Biz, 3 times in 4 months, for 2-3 days each time.
My wife is alone in the country as her Family (that anyway are not a warm family but good people though) lives in Germany.
She is working in a high-tech company as an analyst and took 4 months Maternity leave. The only help we get is from my Parents that are helping a lot relatively and from a babysitter that we took in the last month that comes 3 times a week during the day for 3 hours at the time.

Where is the problem? She reckons that I am not helping enough and I reckon that I don?t know any husband that helps more than me (considering the circumstances). Although it sounds quite like a simple argument, it got her to treat me really bad and accuse me of her problems (gaining weight, being exhausted?) and it reached a boiling point, that I fear can harm our future.
I am not perfect, like her I am righteous, I can say sometimes things I don?t mean. However, I am Loyal, Loving, caring. As for the Caring, I care too much and it is a problem as I get stressed from things (is our BG cold/warm/healthy?). I am confident in our relations that they are based on mutual love and a lot of passion (recently from obvious reasons I am more ?passionate??).

Now for the Technicals: in the first month I looked after our BG 5 hours a day from 18:00 to 23:00 every day (after returning from work), my wife slept at that time as the nights were rough., at 23:00 she put her to bed.
After a month we started a shower routine at 20:00 then feeding and then sleeping hence, I looked after her from 18:00-20:00 including giving her a bath every night up till today. Then my wife breastfed her and put her into bed. I never put our BG to bed till today and never woke up at night for her cries.
On weekends almost on a regular basis I m spending all mornings with our BG. 3-4 hours in the mornings and my wife usually sleeps. The rest of the weekend I would say that we spend time looking after her equally (of course I don?t breastfeed so my wife spends a bit more time with her).
I am very involved, singing, reading, jumping, changing Diapers, showering? and love our BG like there is no tmrw and it is reciprocal.
Last week we started to gradually give her formula and my wife wants to stop breastfeeding her completely at the age of 4 months ( I personally prefer that she will do it for couple of more months, however I support her decision and don?t give her hard time at all). I also support her decision to go back to work after 4 months (I like the fact that she is ambitious).

What does my wife want from me? ( I will try to be as much as accurate as possible and represent her side on the best way):
That I didn?t put our BG to bed till now, that I came back from work late (at 19:00 3-4 times), that I don?t take my wife out on a date, that I am not helping enough with the baby.
That I was stressed when she was pregnant (I admitted in my stressfulness and apologized and she says that she forgave me). That I wake her up in the weekend mornings asking her how was the night (I am doing so as I am spending 3-4 hours with our BG so I need to know when she needs to eat etc?). that she is dead tired, exhausted, feel bad about her body and I cannot understand and support enough.

Her perspective of equal relationships is the actual 50-50 however, I say that it doesn?t work like that and being equal is nice in saying but as I am working hard and she isn?t we cannot spend equally the burdens and responsibilities. When she will be back at work in 10 days , I believe that things will be more equal. I support this approach and will contribute my part in almost an equal way.

My problem is getting worse, as she is building this ?loathy? feeling towards me, that is tearing us apart.
If she is depressed, the it is a relief since it should pass, if not, then it is serious as I don?t expect from someone who loves me to feel so negative about me.

I need your help, please let me know what I can do more? Is she really a ?single mom??

OP posts:
Rational · 17/11/2011 23:12

Binfullofmaggotsonthe45

Good for you. See, you managed.

And don't try the emotive crap on me, my SO was in the RAF and spent more time away than home. Iraq and Afghan.

BertieBotts · 17/11/2011 23:13

No, AF is right, SunRays. The relationships forum is a safe haven for many posters. If you can't understand how it might make someone feel uncomfortable to post when their P comes along and invades that space then I can't really explain it any better than she has already.

AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 23:14

ray

yes, there are lots of lurkers

but many of the posters on her thread are also here

sometimes, MN is a small place

Relationships and AIBU actually have a relatively small core of regulars, haven't you noticed ? Those places certainly get slagged off enough as a cliquey band of harridans who always scream "leave the bastard"

convenient isn't it to say this is a big place, when it suits

AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 23:15

this is AIBU, bertie, before someone else corrects you, but our point stands

LunarRose · 17/11/2011 23:16

Rational - with your last post I admit defeat and go to bed.

Yes perfect worlds do exist where none of this stuff happens, hell if I told you my story you'd probably think I was making up (actually thats the reason I don't tell anyone). Just cause you don't see it, or it isn't part of your world, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Just be thankful it hasn't happened to you.

HalleysWaitress · 17/11/2011 23:16

agree with lunar and af. this is an anonymous forum (really? no shit!) where we should be able to offload and seek advice without the h's turning up and kicking off like the fucking THOUGHT POLICE.

AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 23:17

LR some of us would believe you

BertieBotts · 17/11/2011 23:17

Oh yes, true. I meant to make a point which was connected but I forgot. I need to go to bed I think.

AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 23:18

perhaps OP will come back and tell us how he knows his wife posted this on MN

maybe

SunRaysthruClouds · 17/11/2011 23:18

Alternatively Bertie, as this is a discussion forum, an OP who has the might of right on her (or his) side, might welcome an invasion from her OH, simply because the support from MN would be enough to prove the point.

AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 23:19

it's connected bertie, I just wanted to get in first before someone else did Smile

AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 23:20

ray...do you think the first page of this thread lends weight to your point ?

Rational · 17/11/2011 23:22

To be honest this is the last place I'd come for advice and I'd warn others away too. Talk about making mountains out of mole hills.

Unfortunately, some pretty calm, reasoned advice is lost among the hysterics that seem to inevitably transpire.

HipHopOpotomus · 17/11/2011 23:27

I read the long OP and just a few comments.

As mother of 2 and recently returned to work I can confirm I got very tense in the few weeks before I returned to work. She is already doing a huge job, and no matter how much she loves her job, it may be overwhelming wondering how it will all work out/fit in. (with good child care it can). I also experienced some unexpected anger about it, resentment and anxiety at being serrated from baby I'd been spending so much time with. It only lasted a short time but it had to be gone through.

Perhaps your wife is going through similar. This combined with you being away several nights the week might have created tension for her and resentment/anger towards you.

Plus if you can afford a cleaner get one!!!

EleanorRathbone · 17/11/2011 23:28

Yes warn other women away Rational.

We wouldn't want them getting ideas.

Women all over the country might get an insight into the fact that other women expect respect, kindness and love in their relationships and divorce and that that's not an unreasonable expectation of a relationship. Can't have that. Grin

Pekka · 17/11/2011 23:31

I notice a few of the posters slagging off the OP and calling him abusive are familiar from the antenatal ward thread. The posters who kept repeating "men will rape me". I see this thread is heading that direction as well. Not all men are abusive.
OP - it can be really annoying if you have to be reminded to do the dishes, laundry, cooking, tidying etc. Your post is very defensive, not proactive. I suspect you know your wife may be right.

QuintessentialShadow · 17/11/2011 23:31

Ah, thank you Bertie for backing up what I said down there so extremely well. You read my mind!

Grin
AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 23:32

why are you talking about rape, pekka ?

that's a bit strange

SunRaysthruClouds · 17/11/2011 23:33

AF the connection on the first page to my point to Bertie is a bit hazy, so no. But actually I thought this was supportive to the OP until the other thread became apparent.

elastamum · 17/11/2011 23:33

No sign of the OP then?!! Hopefully he has stopped whining and started helping out.

Just a small point. You are either a lone parent or you're not. Anyone who says they are 'like a single mum' because their H gets home late has no idea what they are talking about and is being rather self indulgent IMO.

BertieBotts · 17/11/2011 23:34

We crossposted Quint, so let's call it a double pronged attack Grin

Rational · 17/11/2011 23:34

I don't know these terrible down trodden women you're talking about. I actually have a circle of very strong women who have either healthy single lives, or supportive loving partners. They can have divorces without turning into man hating bitter bitches.

BertieBotts · 17/11/2011 23:34

What? First page? I'm lost, sorry.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 17/11/2011 23:34

WTH, Pekka? Confused

Amateurish · 17/11/2011 23:35

Those who accuse OP of stalking on MN etc - if you read the first para of the OP it's clear that his DW told him that she had posted on MN and that she was compared to a single mother.

There is no mention in his post that he has actually read his DW's thread. The first reference to that thread I believe comes on page two of this thread.

Judging by the incredible vitriol since that point, it's not surprising that OP has not returned, and it seems unlikely to me that he will be printing off the responses...

I read OP as having genuine concerns and questions about how to be a better husband and father. He obviously badly misjudged his audience.