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wife thinks I can help more and very angry with me

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Homer1978 · 17/11/2011 20:24

I have a problem and I need your advice. I have a strong, beautiful, smart, ambitious wife. our gorgeous little Baby Girl is turning 4 months next week. My wife said the other night that even in Mumsnet they reckon that she is like a single mom. It crashed me.
I want you perhaps to show me the other side, perhaps I am doing something wrong, perhaps I need to change my perspective.

We have been married for 2 years, knowing each other 4, this is our first one. We love each other like crazy (or I can speak for myself).
I am running my own biz with 200 employees and offices around the world. I leave to work at 07:30 return at 18:00. In the last 4 months I can count on one hand the times I returned after 18:00 (at around 19:00), 3 of which were last week. I traveled abroad for Biz, 3 times in 4 months, for 2-3 days each time.
My wife is alone in the country as her Family (that anyway are not a warm family but good people though) lives in Germany.
She is working in a high-tech company as an analyst and took 4 months Maternity leave. The only help we get is from my Parents that are helping a lot relatively and from a babysitter that we took in the last month that comes 3 times a week during the day for 3 hours at the time.

Where is the problem? She reckons that I am not helping enough and I reckon that I don?t know any husband that helps more than me (considering the circumstances). Although it sounds quite like a simple argument, it got her to treat me really bad and accuse me of her problems (gaining weight, being exhausted?) and it reached a boiling point, that I fear can harm our future.
I am not perfect, like her I am righteous, I can say sometimes things I don?t mean. However, I am Loyal, Loving, caring. As for the Caring, I care too much and it is a problem as I get stressed from things (is our BG cold/warm/healthy?). I am confident in our relations that they are based on mutual love and a lot of passion (recently from obvious reasons I am more ?passionate??).

Now for the Technicals: in the first month I looked after our BG 5 hours a day from 18:00 to 23:00 every day (after returning from work), my wife slept at that time as the nights were rough., at 23:00 she put her to bed.
After a month we started a shower routine at 20:00 then feeding and then sleeping hence, I looked after her from 18:00-20:00 including giving her a bath every night up till today. Then my wife breastfed her and put her into bed. I never put our BG to bed till today and never woke up at night for her cries.
On weekends almost on a regular basis I m spending all mornings with our BG. 3-4 hours in the mornings and my wife usually sleeps. The rest of the weekend I would say that we spend time looking after her equally (of course I don?t breastfeed so my wife spends a bit more time with her).
I am very involved, singing, reading, jumping, changing Diapers, showering? and love our BG like there is no tmrw and it is reciprocal.
Last week we started to gradually give her formula and my wife wants to stop breastfeeding her completely at the age of 4 months ( I personally prefer that she will do it for couple of more months, however I support her decision and don?t give her hard time at all). I also support her decision to go back to work after 4 months (I like the fact that she is ambitious).

What does my wife want from me? ( I will try to be as much as accurate as possible and represent her side on the best way):
That I didn?t put our BG to bed till now, that I came back from work late (at 19:00 3-4 times), that I don?t take my wife out on a date, that I am not helping enough with the baby.
That I was stressed when she was pregnant (I admitted in my stressfulness and apologized and she says that she forgave me). That I wake her up in the weekend mornings asking her how was the night (I am doing so as I am spending 3-4 hours with our BG so I need to know when she needs to eat etc?). that she is dead tired, exhausted, feel bad about her body and I cannot understand and support enough.

Her perspective of equal relationships is the actual 50-50 however, I say that it doesn?t work like that and being equal is nice in saying but as I am working hard and she isn?t we cannot spend equally the burdens and responsibilities. When she will be back at work in 10 days , I believe that things will be more equal. I support this approach and will contribute my part in almost an equal way.

My problem is getting worse, as she is building this ?loathy? feeling towards me, that is tearing us apart.
If she is depressed, the it is a relief since it should pass, if not, then it is serious as I don?t expect from someone who loves me to feel so negative about me.

I need your help, please let me know what I can do more? Is she really a ?single mom??

OP posts:
Homer1978 · 18/11/2011 13:19

i think that my wife would agree with me that i am sharing the households at least 50-50, inc finding a cleaner and a Nanny, paying bills, supermarkets.. etc.. i am not this Clueless hubby that comes home and asks what should i do next, in fact i am very proactive.
about using the word "help her" you are right...should use the word "share" however, don't crucify me, one word not in place not explaining a whole story...

OP posts:
Rational · 18/11/2011 13:22

At least everyone's calmed down and no one's calling him abusive anymore, I wouldn't want to read that about myself, even if it was interspersed with some good solid advice. Having to wade through all the hared would be soul destroying.

What some people here seem to be unable to do is simply 'not assume'. Some find it impossible to simply look at the evidence that has been presented and advise based on that. There's this mad rush to read between the lines and in some cases just make shit up.

Someone suggested ages ago that the OP would print selected portions of the thread in order to win the argument with his wife. Several posters, who possibly couldn't be arsed reading the whole thread then ran with that, saying that was disgusting and out of order, when in fact there was not a shred of evidence to suggest the OP had any intention of doing so, nor any evidence that he was in fact the type of person devious enough to do it, but the result was powerful, a whole bunch of people thinking the OP is a complete cunt! That's just one example, other posts accusing him of actual abuse were just as misguided.

All I ask is that people don't make stuff up, it's not hard.

Homer1978 · 18/11/2011 13:24

to Amateurish, you are great, many thanks for your good advz and support :)

OP posts:
Dipdap · 18/11/2011 13:34

My DH works 5 days a week and studies 2 days a week. Alot of these days, he is home between 6-9pm. We have a 3yr old DD and 6month DS who is exclusively BF. We have no family around, don't use a babysitter yet as the baby is a real mummy's boy at the moment (maybe in a few months). My DH doesn't do much housework at all, hardly any tbh, and I don't ask him to. I'm a SAHM btw but I'm studying part time for a psychology degree.

In my opinion, going off your original post, you do alot for her by the sounds of it. Do you hire yourself out?

fulllife · 18/11/2011 14:05

busted!
yup i made the mistake of mentioning MN in yesterdays argument, so i kinda ratted myself out. btw i dont mind DH posting, i think it makes for better crowdsourcing, i mean when do u ever get the chance for a 360 view on ur issues?
also picking things off this thread to thump me on head with wont work and D H knows that. what i took from my thread was to think about what xactly i would like husband to do and i realized its not even that much:
take me out on friggin date w/out others (arg)
put babygirl tobed once a while
be aware that coming home at seven is really rough on me and do only in emergency
NOT wake me up on wends before starting ur shift
do fun stuff as family on weekend instead of hanging round ILs all day
(hi babes:)
in fact since argument yesterdsy DH put DG to sleep for first time and jumped up with me twice during night, and waited with breakfast at coffeeplace for me until i finished prepping baby and could make it. am over the moon and feel much less alone,yey!

just one more thing for the pie chart fraction:
found babysitter for added support only, i am mostly at home with her, and cook or sleep , also breast feed and calm down babygirl when she cries so its a help not a free pass.

also apology to single mums, obv am not at all trying to belittle as they are heros in my book (my mum was one at my infancy). so hard to write post that nooone will get offended by.

ah and i actually believe that MN is an online democracy and everyone has right to post. not wild west where first poster owns the land.
anyhoo if id like to remain anonymous in future will simply namechange. suggestions? (cool-name-envy)

fulllife · 18/11/2011 14:06

dipdap ahem,no,DH has no free hours left shoots evil eye :)

Moominsarescary · 18/11/2011 14:15

You sound very reasonable as does your dh, seems that you just want to spend more time together alone, and time doing fun stuff as a family

Your dh sounds sincere in wanting to change things to make you feel happier and mire supported, hope you get your alone togeather date soon!

MildlyNarkyPuffin · 18/11/2011 14:17

journalist

LunarRose · 18/11/2011 14:18

Thank you for posting fulllife, it really is appreciated... I was quite worried last night.

For what it's worth I still really don't like the tone of the original post at all but that's a matter for you to make a decision on!!!

fulllife · 18/11/2011 14:22

puffin- i wish

lunar - KIM that this was after argument. Underlying sensation is sincere i know that

Rational · 18/11/2011 14:23

So not an abusive bastard then?

Does fulllife not find the posts suggesting her, actually really supportive husband, is an abuser quite offensive?

I wouldn't seek marriage advice from an online forum but if I did I'd feel quite defensive if my partner was slated the way the op here has.

Lexie1970 · 18/11/2011 14:25

What a nice end to this thread.

I really did think that Homer was being bashed unecessarily by some Mners.

Couples need to talk and sadly in the first few months of having a baby it doesn't happen enough!

northernwreck · 18/11/2011 14:28

This was the nuttiest thread evah. I'm out. Could have done without the mass hysteria really.

slug · 18/11/2011 14:32

Interesting that you consider "paying the bills" to be sharing the household duties.

QuintessentialShadow · 18/11/2011 14:44

ahhh Slug. I am the bill payer in our house. Keeping on top of all, and ensure all is paid, IS a time consuming duty.

Good to see you both post. You seem very measured. Good.

Bliss.

Me like that on a friday afternoon.

Amateurish · 18/11/2011 15:20

Hurray a nice ending

Proudnscary · 18/11/2011 15:27
Hmm
Binfullofmaggotsonthe45 · 18/11/2011 16:19

PMSL @ Narky or has the op just logged in under his wife's name!

I'm going back to the Christmas thread, I get enough shite in work.

And if it is a genuine response I would still pick up on my husband calling my family cold and talking about my weight gain in a public forum.

My husband may have a learning curve on the cleaning front, but he'd never write some of that stuff.

WidowWadman · 18/11/2011 16:27

slug - I think "paying the bills" and related admin is a household chore - what makes you think otherwise?

AnyFucker · 18/11/2011 17:08

hoorayyy a happy ending

yup

dat

notmyproblem · 18/11/2011 19:24

Takes a good three weeks to make new behaviour a habit. One swallow does not make a summer.

I still can't over the original post, this bit:

but as I am working hard and she isn?t we cannot spend equally the burdens and responsibilities.

Either a really massively bad moment in wording that sentence or he really believes her work at home is worth less than his making money.

If the latter than it'll take more than a few bedtimes and night wakings to change things.

Call me a cynic but Fulllife if it all goes to shit again, you know where we are.

Oakmaiden · 18/11/2011 19:45

It may just have been poor wording. I have done that on mumsnet so many times - a slip of the keyboard, and then no-one will ever let it go!

He may well have meant "Since I am out at work all day" meaning he has less time at home to step in, rather than inferring he doesn't think the fulllife is working hard too.

Really, I am sure it is for them to talk over anyway.

northernwreck · 18/11/2011 20:19

I dont think English is his first language. I frikkin hope not anyway!

northernwreck · 18/11/2011 20:19

she says using bad slang and no punctuation...!Grin

NoSeriously · 18/11/2011 20:28

I do want to slap dh when he comes running to me because the baby is crying.

Either she's dirty hungry or tired..there really is no reason to wake anyone to know if the baby should be fed.

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