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wife thinks I can help more and very angry with me

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Homer1978 · 17/11/2011 20:24

I have a problem and I need your advice. I have a strong, beautiful, smart, ambitious wife. our gorgeous little Baby Girl is turning 4 months next week. My wife said the other night that even in Mumsnet they reckon that she is like a single mom. It crashed me.
I want you perhaps to show me the other side, perhaps I am doing something wrong, perhaps I need to change my perspective.

We have been married for 2 years, knowing each other 4, this is our first one. We love each other like crazy (or I can speak for myself).
I am running my own biz with 200 employees and offices around the world. I leave to work at 07:30 return at 18:00. In the last 4 months I can count on one hand the times I returned after 18:00 (at around 19:00), 3 of which were last week. I traveled abroad for Biz, 3 times in 4 months, for 2-3 days each time.
My wife is alone in the country as her Family (that anyway are not a warm family but good people though) lives in Germany.
She is working in a high-tech company as an analyst and took 4 months Maternity leave. The only help we get is from my Parents that are helping a lot relatively and from a babysitter that we took in the last month that comes 3 times a week during the day for 3 hours at the time.

Where is the problem? She reckons that I am not helping enough and I reckon that I don?t know any husband that helps more than me (considering the circumstances). Although it sounds quite like a simple argument, it got her to treat me really bad and accuse me of her problems (gaining weight, being exhausted?) and it reached a boiling point, that I fear can harm our future.
I am not perfect, like her I am righteous, I can say sometimes things I don?t mean. However, I am Loyal, Loving, caring. As for the Caring, I care too much and it is a problem as I get stressed from things (is our BG cold/warm/healthy?). I am confident in our relations that they are based on mutual love and a lot of passion (recently from obvious reasons I am more ?passionate??).

Now for the Technicals: in the first month I looked after our BG 5 hours a day from 18:00 to 23:00 every day (after returning from work), my wife slept at that time as the nights were rough., at 23:00 she put her to bed.
After a month we started a shower routine at 20:00 then feeding and then sleeping hence, I looked after her from 18:00-20:00 including giving her a bath every night up till today. Then my wife breastfed her and put her into bed. I never put our BG to bed till today and never woke up at night for her cries.
On weekends almost on a regular basis I m spending all mornings with our BG. 3-4 hours in the mornings and my wife usually sleeps. The rest of the weekend I would say that we spend time looking after her equally (of course I don?t breastfeed so my wife spends a bit more time with her).
I am very involved, singing, reading, jumping, changing Diapers, showering? and love our BG like there is no tmrw and it is reciprocal.
Last week we started to gradually give her formula and my wife wants to stop breastfeeding her completely at the age of 4 months ( I personally prefer that she will do it for couple of more months, however I support her decision and don?t give her hard time at all). I also support her decision to go back to work after 4 months (I like the fact that she is ambitious).

What does my wife want from me? ( I will try to be as much as accurate as possible and represent her side on the best way):
That I didn?t put our BG to bed till now, that I came back from work late (at 19:00 3-4 times), that I don?t take my wife out on a date, that I am not helping enough with the baby.
That I was stressed when she was pregnant (I admitted in my stressfulness and apologized and she says that she forgave me). That I wake her up in the weekend mornings asking her how was the night (I am doing so as I am spending 3-4 hours with our BG so I need to know when she needs to eat etc?). that she is dead tired, exhausted, feel bad about her body and I cannot understand and support enough.

Her perspective of equal relationships is the actual 50-50 however, I say that it doesn?t work like that and being equal is nice in saying but as I am working hard and she isn?t we cannot spend equally the burdens and responsibilities. When she will be back at work in 10 days , I believe that things will be more equal. I support this approach and will contribute my part in almost an equal way.

My problem is getting worse, as she is building this ?loathy? feeling towards me, that is tearing us apart.
If she is depressed, the it is a relief since it should pass, if not, then it is serious as I don?t expect from someone who loves me to feel so negative about me.

I need your help, please let me know what I can do more? Is she really a ?single mom??

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 22:35

< glazes over > reading berties post but yeah, I get the point

changing the odd nappy doesn't cut it especially when you devalue the rest of what she does

devaluing cancels out anything that you could do to "help"

PeneloPeePitstop · 17/11/2011 22:35

Has anyone not worked out Rational's maths?
39 with a 25 and 23 year old? Hmm

bringmesunshine2009 · 17/11/2011 22:35

Also, I but OP is the sort of man that says: "I changed DD's nappy for you "

Agggrah

Loving Anyfucker's contribution here btw

bringmesunshine2009 · 17/11/2011 22:36

I wondered if rational was in fact OP masquerading as poster.

northernwreck · 17/11/2011 22:37

BertieBotts! Are you for real? I am going to have to sit down with this tomorrow and see if I can work out if you are right or not!
And if you are right the OP has no leg to stand on!

AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 22:38

well, I never believed Rational's perfect and lovely world where babies are easy and husbands only have to change the odd nappy to be Husband of The year anyway < shrug >

BertieBotts · 17/11/2011 22:38

Actually it's taken me an hour Blush because the last post on the thread when I was posting was the one above AF's first one.

Am now fighting a compelling urge to make pie charts about how much time me & DP spend doing various tasks...

AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 22:40

NW, would you change your handmaiden stance if bertie's calculations are correct ?

because if that is the case, she should publish them in every mother and baby/parenting/womens magazine on the planet

perhaps things might actually start to change then

BertieBotts · 17/11/2011 22:40

Northern I can give you the figures if you like, though they are all in the post if you dig through it.

realhousewife · 17/11/2011 22:40

Stop fussing about the baby, start fussing about her. Cook her meals, make the bed, do whatever little things you can to help out and show you care.

Don't EVER wake her up again, don't ask her questions that are obvious.

She probably needs to know that if something went wrong, you would be able to take care of the baby.

Don't doubt her decisions about clothing/feeding/sleep - she will know best, you will not.

LunarRose · 17/11/2011 22:41

Please do it for me, I love statistics I had a Math GCSE project when I made up pages and pages of graphs using excel (everyone else did one or two)!!!

Binfullofmaggotsonthe45 · 17/11/2011 22:41

Rational, be careful you are sounding a bit sock puppety at times.

I am happy that your childcare was a breeze, mine was at times but I did see family going through hell and each person has a different experience. My SIL had to take my DN out in the car for an hour every night to get him to sleep, and then had to wean milk a teaspoon at a time as he wouldn't accept the bottle after breast and she had to return to work. It was agony for her, and I silently count my blessings with my DS.

I've reread the ops post a second time, and he manages to belittle his DW family as cold, draw attention to her weight gain, highlight the fact that he thinks she isn't pulling her weight, make light of PND - it's a relief if that is what it is? Really? Problem solved then?

All the time painting himself in a positive light.

I just don't like it one bit. I feel a bit sick and scared for this woman.

I think I'm going to ask them to pull the whole thread. I can also picture the print offs as another poster has mentioned.

MildlyNarkyPuffin · 17/11/2011 22:42

What DontCallMeFrothyDragon and BertieBotts said.

AKissIsNotAContract · 17/11/2011 22:43

Great work Bertie :)

MildlyNarkyPuffin · 17/11/2011 22:43

And yy to pie charts.

BertieBotts · 17/11/2011 22:43

It's not even perfect, because there are problems with e.g the 8 hours' sleep because if those 8 hours are gained via a nap or a lie in (where she gets woken up halfway to check if the baby is hungry Hmm) then they aren't as restful as 8 hours unbroken, so she'll probably need more sleep than him, really. But without getting into specifics of my job is harder than your job/my free time is more important than yours, it works on numbers alone I think. I agree numbers aren't really enough to go on, but as a starting point it does show that there is quite a discrepancy even taking these small factors into account, I'd have thought.

LunarRose · 17/11/2011 22:45

Binfull of maggots - why didn't I think of that, I've been busy trying to make sure there's a post on every page as often as possible supporting her, but am aware if he only printed the first page there's nothing.

HalleysWaitress · 17/11/2011 22:46

I think right to reply is contextual. For example if the h comes across the thread of the w whilst stalking her all over the Internet/going through her laptop he deserves the bashing. If the w has posted then shared the thread openly with her h as a discussion starter then I think right to reply is valid if that makes sense?

northernwreck · 17/11/2011 22:46

My what stance AF??!
The fact that I reckon people can go a bit nuts when a new baby is involved and don't feel the need to work up a witchhunt doesn't make me a handmaiden (of Satan)..
Yeah, I worked it out, you are right Bertie, going by what OP says he does that makes sense.

Rational · 17/11/2011 22:46

"Has anyone not worked out Rational's maths?
39 with a 25 and 23 year old? "

No, read carefully. I had my youngest (5) when I was 39, I'm now 44. So I was 19 when I had my eldest. It's not hard Wink

BertieBotts · 17/11/2011 22:47

Haha. Pie charts and dividing others' time up up tomorrow another day, I need to go to bed! Plus I'm procrastinating on starting an essay. I'd probably do it though if you catch me at a time when I have time. Would probably be more use than on this kind of thread anyway. I don't think OP is likely to see it inamongst everything else, if he even comes back.

Binfullofmaggotsonthe45 · 17/11/2011 22:48

You can still do that in the meantime Lunar?

DW of op, if your listening there are lots of women on here who have experienced the same feelings and issues as you, and I hope you don't give up on the chance of benefitting from this experience personally and discreetly. However I would urge you to get RL help from a neutral friendly source as you sound very unhappy and need more support that you are getting.

Your feelings are real and important. X

Rational · 17/11/2011 22:49

"well, I never believed Rational's perfect and lovely world where babies are easy and husbands only have to change the odd nappy to be Husband of The year anyway < shrug >"

I didn't mention a husband. Making stuff up again, tut tut.

MildlyNarkyPuffin · 17/11/2011 22:49

If he's printing it all off...

www.1hclaw.com/site/home/

WidowWadman · 17/11/2011 22:49

stewiegriffinsmum

"In fact, without going to check can you say what type of washer/dryer you have? You'd be surprised at the number of studies where men, who claim to do "laundry" can't actually name the brand or size of their washing machine"

I'm doing 95% of laundry at the moment, but don't have a scooby what brand or size my washing machine is.

My husband could tell me without checking in an instant brand and loadsize and maximum spincycles for different fabric types. Probably he's just more of a whitegoods gadget geek than I am,

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