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wife thinks I can help more and very angry with me

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Homer1978 · 17/11/2011 20:24

I have a problem and I need your advice. I have a strong, beautiful, smart, ambitious wife. our gorgeous little Baby Girl is turning 4 months next week. My wife said the other night that even in Mumsnet they reckon that she is like a single mom. It crashed me.
I want you perhaps to show me the other side, perhaps I am doing something wrong, perhaps I need to change my perspective.

We have been married for 2 years, knowing each other 4, this is our first one. We love each other like crazy (or I can speak for myself).
I am running my own biz with 200 employees and offices around the world. I leave to work at 07:30 return at 18:00. In the last 4 months I can count on one hand the times I returned after 18:00 (at around 19:00), 3 of which were last week. I traveled abroad for Biz, 3 times in 4 months, for 2-3 days each time.
My wife is alone in the country as her Family (that anyway are not a warm family but good people though) lives in Germany.
She is working in a high-tech company as an analyst and took 4 months Maternity leave. The only help we get is from my Parents that are helping a lot relatively and from a babysitter that we took in the last month that comes 3 times a week during the day for 3 hours at the time.

Where is the problem? She reckons that I am not helping enough and I reckon that I don?t know any husband that helps more than me (considering the circumstances). Although it sounds quite like a simple argument, it got her to treat me really bad and accuse me of her problems (gaining weight, being exhausted?) and it reached a boiling point, that I fear can harm our future.
I am not perfect, like her I am righteous, I can say sometimes things I don?t mean. However, I am Loyal, Loving, caring. As for the Caring, I care too much and it is a problem as I get stressed from things (is our BG cold/warm/healthy?). I am confident in our relations that they are based on mutual love and a lot of passion (recently from obvious reasons I am more ?passionate??).

Now for the Technicals: in the first month I looked after our BG 5 hours a day from 18:00 to 23:00 every day (after returning from work), my wife slept at that time as the nights were rough., at 23:00 she put her to bed.
After a month we started a shower routine at 20:00 then feeding and then sleeping hence, I looked after her from 18:00-20:00 including giving her a bath every night up till today. Then my wife breastfed her and put her into bed. I never put our BG to bed till today and never woke up at night for her cries.
On weekends almost on a regular basis I m spending all mornings with our BG. 3-4 hours in the mornings and my wife usually sleeps. The rest of the weekend I would say that we spend time looking after her equally (of course I don?t breastfeed so my wife spends a bit more time with her).
I am very involved, singing, reading, jumping, changing Diapers, showering? and love our BG like there is no tmrw and it is reciprocal.
Last week we started to gradually give her formula and my wife wants to stop breastfeeding her completely at the age of 4 months ( I personally prefer that she will do it for couple of more months, however I support her decision and don?t give her hard time at all). I also support her decision to go back to work after 4 months (I like the fact that she is ambitious).

What does my wife want from me? ( I will try to be as much as accurate as possible and represent her side on the best way):
That I didn?t put our BG to bed till now, that I came back from work late (at 19:00 3-4 times), that I don?t take my wife out on a date, that I am not helping enough with the baby.
That I was stressed when she was pregnant (I admitted in my stressfulness and apologized and she says that she forgave me). That I wake her up in the weekend mornings asking her how was the night (I am doing so as I am spending 3-4 hours with our BG so I need to know when she needs to eat etc?). that she is dead tired, exhausted, feel bad about her body and I cannot understand and support enough.

Her perspective of equal relationships is the actual 50-50 however, I say that it doesn?t work like that and being equal is nice in saying but as I am working hard and she isn?t we cannot spend equally the burdens and responsibilities. When she will be back at work in 10 days , I believe that things will be more equal. I support this approach and will contribute my part in almost an equal way.

My problem is getting worse, as she is building this ?loathy? feeling towards me, that is tearing us apart.
If she is depressed, the it is a relief since it should pass, if not, then it is serious as I don?t expect from someone who loves me to feel so negative about me.

I need your help, please let me know what I can do more? Is she really a ?single mom??

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 21:57

he has homed in on the handmaiden posts and currently using them to make his wife feel more like shit than she already does

NinkyNonker · 17/11/2011 21:59

There's a whole lot of people on this thread happy to help him it would seem.

Shitty.

AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 21:59

good work rational

you get top billing for "this man is wonderful and should just get his cock sucked a bit more"

TravellerForEver · 17/11/2011 21:59

I don't like it when people start a thread, esp AIBU and then just leave and never come back.
It just doesn't sounds right if that makes sense?

Even when people think they are right and would get some support, they usually throw a couple of posts to defend their pov.
When there is nothing.. I am looking for something suspicious.

LunarRose · 17/11/2011 22:00

Grin @ StewieGriffinsMom

ShockinHolyTempers · 17/11/2011 22:00

Rational you're making a fundamental attribution error here.

Basically you're under the misapprehension that your easy/lucky kids were down to YOUR behaviour/parenting and therefore you've failed to understand that others have not had the same experience as yourself, instead choosing to blame the parents of not-so-easy children for being inadequate and not as brilliant as you.

It's quite a primitive and unevolved point of view and it makes you sound like an idiot.

AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 22:01

and like a smug bastard

lucky24 · 17/11/2011 22:02

So people think its ok for an op to come on here and slag of their partner but not OK for an op to come on and ask what they could be doing wrong?

I saw the DW posts last night.

I cant say this is how your DW feels but i think it can be a lonely time for a new mum with no family local possibly being on your own with a baby most the day. And you can build up resentment for the partner that seems to be carrying on a normal life. Possibly you need to focus on doing things for her/you all as a family rather than just for baby. By that im thinking day trips out together (after her lie in) at the weekend.

Rational · 17/11/2011 22:04

....and Mumsnet resorts to what it's good at. Personal insults and slagging when someone doesn't agree with them.

Some of you are like a pack of excited dogs, you don't need to do/say much to get you all over excited and behaving like a pack.

methsdrinker · 17/11/2011 22:04

Forkful
That list is brill it forgot sex worker and events organiser party planner and general upkeep of yourself i.e. Hairdressing waxing and general topiary

NinkyNonker · 17/11/2011 22:04

And totally missing the point as well, the poster in question wasn't even trying to say it was harder than work. Just valuable...it would appear some don't agree.

LunarRose · 17/11/2011 22:05

Actually what annoyed me the most after the divorce was the number of times my ex "recuited" my support network/family to tell me I was wrong etc and therefore isolating me. They were totally well meaningly helped him thereby being abused by him too.

this post felt totally like that

NinkyNonker · 17/11/2011 22:06

Well, I'm suspicious of a man who behaves like this Lucky. I'd be amazed, and horrified if DH did this.

HalleysWaitress · 17/11/2011 22:07

I must add. It was partly a load of mners telling him what a cock he is that made me feel I could ask him to leave. As in I didn't ever need to post my story as complete strangers defended me anyway. He did win over Mumsnet for the time being though and can well imagine him scouring it daily looking for me.......if you found me this time get a life you can't control me any more!

NinkyNonker · 17/11/2011 22:08

Yes Lunar, many friends/acquaintances told me that my abusive (not physically) ex partner was just a joker and I didn't get his sense of humour.

Hmm
LunarRose · 17/11/2011 22:09

Lucky - frankly if that's all the problem is, the OP wife has already told him all that. It really doesn't take a genius to solve that problem, just a genuinely caring husband prepared to do what his wife has asked.

No sure what he would need Mumsnet for in that case Confused

ShockinHolyTempers · 17/11/2011 22:11

Rational you back up your opinion with more than anecdotal non-evidence of your own tiny experiment of you and your own 3 children and then maybe you'll have an ounce of credibility.

There really is no need for 'insults' or 'slagging' as you are making yourself sound foolish all on your own.

AnyFucker · 17/11/2011 22:12

he wants to invade her space, and reduce her

it's just another way to belittle her existence

get a load of naive women to agree with him, so he can tell her how unreasonable and crazy she is

lovely

lucky24 · 17/11/2011 22:12

From reading his wife posts last night it didnt seem that she had spoken to him at about how she feels, which is why it looks to me that he has come on here for some clues

Rational · 17/11/2011 22:13

And everyone on here bashing this guy just because their ex husband was a twat?

LunarRose · 17/11/2011 22:13

He doesn't actually seem genuinely upset, but has quite calmly presented a case.

northernwreck · 17/11/2011 22:13

I dont actually think this OP is Satan Incarnate...! I can see both sides.#
Its hard on couples to have a new baby. People do weird things (like try and win an argument via mumsnet).
I do think his use of the word "help" is a bit of a clue as to how he maybe doesn't quite get why his wife is pissed off with him, but on the other hand he at least seems to be trying to be a good husband, even if he is getting it wrong.
I suppose I am a bit jealous of any woman who can hand the difficult sleepless baby over to someone else and go and have a five hour sleep, so maybe my perspective is somewhat different from the married women on here, I dunno.

Rational · 17/11/2011 22:14

"it's just another way to belittle her existence

get a load of naive women to agree with him, so he can tell her how unreasonable and crazy she is "

I have ni idea where you got this hate from? Methinks you're projecting.

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 17/11/2011 22:14

"handmaiden posts" is a lovely phrase, AF, , for the Stepford Wives who say, "I did all this with a broom up my arse too, so she should just suck it up"

NinkyNonker · 17/11/2011 22:14

He started it saying she has told him that Mumsnet tells her that she is like a single mother...indicating that they have talked. And that he knows full well this is where she posts and here he appears.

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