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wife thinks I can help more and very angry with me

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Homer1978 · 17/11/2011 20:24

I have a problem and I need your advice. I have a strong, beautiful, smart, ambitious wife. our gorgeous little Baby Girl is turning 4 months next week. My wife said the other night that even in Mumsnet they reckon that she is like a single mom. It crashed me.
I want you perhaps to show me the other side, perhaps I am doing something wrong, perhaps I need to change my perspective.

We have been married for 2 years, knowing each other 4, this is our first one. We love each other like crazy (or I can speak for myself).
I am running my own biz with 200 employees and offices around the world. I leave to work at 07:30 return at 18:00. In the last 4 months I can count on one hand the times I returned after 18:00 (at around 19:00), 3 of which were last week. I traveled abroad for Biz, 3 times in 4 months, for 2-3 days each time.
My wife is alone in the country as her Family (that anyway are not a warm family but good people though) lives in Germany.
She is working in a high-tech company as an analyst and took 4 months Maternity leave. The only help we get is from my Parents that are helping a lot relatively and from a babysitter that we took in the last month that comes 3 times a week during the day for 3 hours at the time.

Where is the problem? She reckons that I am not helping enough and I reckon that I don?t know any husband that helps more than me (considering the circumstances). Although it sounds quite like a simple argument, it got her to treat me really bad and accuse me of her problems (gaining weight, being exhausted?) and it reached a boiling point, that I fear can harm our future.
I am not perfect, like her I am righteous, I can say sometimes things I don?t mean. However, I am Loyal, Loving, caring. As for the Caring, I care too much and it is a problem as I get stressed from things (is our BG cold/warm/healthy?). I am confident in our relations that they are based on mutual love and a lot of passion (recently from obvious reasons I am more ?passionate??).

Now for the Technicals: in the first month I looked after our BG 5 hours a day from 18:00 to 23:00 every day (after returning from work), my wife slept at that time as the nights were rough., at 23:00 she put her to bed.
After a month we started a shower routine at 20:00 then feeding and then sleeping hence, I looked after her from 18:00-20:00 including giving her a bath every night up till today. Then my wife breastfed her and put her into bed. I never put our BG to bed till today and never woke up at night for her cries.
On weekends almost on a regular basis I m spending all mornings with our BG. 3-4 hours in the mornings and my wife usually sleeps. The rest of the weekend I would say that we spend time looking after her equally (of course I don?t breastfeed so my wife spends a bit more time with her).
I am very involved, singing, reading, jumping, changing Diapers, showering? and love our BG like there is no tmrw and it is reciprocal.
Last week we started to gradually give her formula and my wife wants to stop breastfeeding her completely at the age of 4 months ( I personally prefer that she will do it for couple of more months, however I support her decision and don?t give her hard time at all). I also support her decision to go back to work after 4 months (I like the fact that she is ambitious).

What does my wife want from me? ( I will try to be as much as accurate as possible and represent her side on the best way):
That I didn?t put our BG to bed till now, that I came back from work late (at 19:00 3-4 times), that I don?t take my wife out on a date, that I am not helping enough with the baby.
That I was stressed when she was pregnant (I admitted in my stressfulness and apologized and she says that she forgave me). That I wake her up in the weekend mornings asking her how was the night (I am doing so as I am spending 3-4 hours with our BG so I need to know when she needs to eat etc?). that she is dead tired, exhausted, feel bad about her body and I cannot understand and support enough.

Her perspective of equal relationships is the actual 50-50 however, I say that it doesn?t work like that and being equal is nice in saying but as I am working hard and she isn?t we cannot spend equally the burdens and responsibilities. When she will be back at work in 10 days , I believe that things will be more equal. I support this approach and will contribute my part in almost an equal way.

My problem is getting worse, as she is building this ?loathy? feeling towards me, that is tearing us apart.
If she is depressed, the it is a relief since it should pass, if not, then it is serious as I don?t expect from someone who loves me to feel so negative about me.

I need your help, please let me know what I can do more? Is she really a ?single mom??

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LunarRose · 17/11/2011 21:05

Yes fuckityfuckfuck I agree

Doesn't feel at all like the OP has come on here to get a woman's opinion. He' come to present his version of events and gain justification that he's a wonderful person.

I'm thinking of typical abusive behaviour where a man systemically removes and woman's forms of support. I actually think that coming on her is a violation of trust.

lborolass · 17/11/2011 21:06

Tee - "I have no idea what you're asking, but if your wife says you aren't doing enough, you aren't doing enough"

How can that possibly be true? Wives don't get to dictate who does what.

NinkyNonker · 17/11/2011 21:06

Sorry, on phone and forgot to put funny brackets round links.

My point was that I don't really think it is on, this kind of retaliation post. The details are too close for coincidence (mention of waking her up to ask about night time etc, mostly in second link). I would be pretty pissed off if DH did this to me.

Am now worried though in case the OP didn't know her username, hadn't read the posts...maybe I should get my posts deleted.

spartafc · 17/11/2011 21:09

the only help we get is from my Parents that are helping a lot relatively and from a babysitter that we took in the last month that comes 3 times a week during the day for 3 hours at the time.
Is that not quite a lot of help though? You seem to do a fair bit as well. I'm not sure your wife has a particularly firm grasp of what being a single parent entails. FWIW, my DH does considerably less than you claim you do, and we have zero help. As in no help at all. Even when DH is in hospital having operations (has happened twice since DS was born) and having daily treatment. People cope when they have to. Your wife, I would say, is maybe a bit depressed. It does sound like she's struggling when really there appears to be a lot of support there for her.

StewieGriffinsMom · 17/11/2011 21:11

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Lexie1970 · 17/11/2011 21:14

I have read this and actualy think - hang on what the hell is the wife complaining for!!

When I had DS as my partner was working I didn't expect hiim to be doing anything like what OP is doing. As far as I was concerned I was at home with baby and DP was out at work. He had to concentrate on his work so I was up in the night (Breastfed for 9 months) and did the cooking, cleaning and housework. I DIDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS.

FFS - if you are not working and your husbands / partners are - deal with child care and house that is your job at this moment in time.

Childcare aint 50/50 - most of the times babies want their mums no matter how much dads do.

When wife goes back to work you need to get in a cleaner so you just have to worry about baby care and eating between the pair of you. If both of you are working I imagine that you would be able to afford help to keep home ticking over. Speaking from experience once both of you are at work - the housework become a big source of argument as to who is doing the most....

Sorry your wife is just currently being too demanding!!

notmyproblem · 17/11/2011 21:14

Wow, just wow.

I can see why the DW is considering going back to work earlier than she wanted to, if this the her DP.

but as I am working hard and she isn't we cannot spend equally the burdens and responsibilities.

If that's how you think OP, that a woman can only be "working hard" while working at a paid job outside the home, I suspect your marriage isn't going to last much longer.

Here's an idea: understand that all work providing for a household and raising children, whether it earns money or not, is worthy work. Once you get your little brain around that, then you can start thinking about why your wife is upset with you, and what you can do to help her.

LunarRose · 17/11/2011 21:20

Please mumsnet consider what you post on here in reply to this. If he was that caring here wouldn't be one here telling you how wonderful he was.

Please don't going diagnosing the wife either. It's is also a very common abusive tactic to persuade a woman that she must be depressed or mentally ill to retain control.

Rational · 17/11/2011 21:22

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If that's how you think OP, that a woman can only be "working hard" while working at a paid job outside the home, I suspect your marriage isn't going to last much longer.

Here's an idea: understand that all work providing for a household and raising children, whether it earns money or not, is worthy work. Once you get your little brain around that, then you can start thinking about why your wife is upset with you, and what you can do to help her."

Bullshit! I've done both, stayed at home with babies and worked 10 hour shifts at work. Give me the babies any day!

It's not that hard!

LunarRose · 17/11/2011 21:22

Actually OP I do apologise if you are genuine, but there are so many red flags in your post.

NinkyNonker · 17/11/2011 21:22

I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling a little uncomfortable about this.

MrsTittleMouse · 17/11/2011 21:23

Rational
I was a very easy laid-back baby. I expected more of the same.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
My children genuinely do not need the normal amounts of sleep. They also breastfed like it was going out of fashion. We could almost see them inflate before our eyes. To say that I was exhausted was a massive understatement. I'm still feeling the after effects.

Nice of you to imply that it was all my fault though!

NinkyNonker · 17/11/2011 21:24

Rational, it isn't a competition. The poster was only pointing out that it is worthy work and a valuable contribution to the household...not that it is rocket science.

StewieGriffinsMom · 17/11/2011 21:25

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Rational · 17/11/2011 21:25

I have three kids, I must have been very 'lucky' with all of them then.

fuckityfuckfuckfuck · 17/11/2011 21:26

Rational, I was soooo smug with my dd. Then I got ds, baby from hell (much as I love him). It's not about how good you are as a parent ime. It's pure luck. Good for you. Welcome to MN by the way.

MrsTittleMouse · 17/11/2011 21:26

Yes, that's right, you were. Nice of you to admit it.

forkful · 17/11/2011 21:30

really really really off when a 'D'H comes on here and wants to present their side of the story Hmm - waaaaaaayy to piss her off Sad

remembers time a bloke came on here complaining that his DW had fled to a refuge Hmm

I do not think that you will listen to any of the advice but you really need to read What Do Mother's Do Especially when it looks like nothing at all.

Also Wifework linked up thread.

Forget what you think is fair. Your wife is telling you that she is exhausted. This is what you need to address. For many people looking after a baby is the hardest hardest time.

As you are all about the details - give us the lowdown on the ones on this list.

Taken from the website associated with the book This Is Not How I Thought It Would Be: Remodeling Motherhood to Get the Lives We Want Today.

And btw who cuts the baby's nails?.

LunarRose · 17/11/2011 21:30

rational

Yes absolute luck... and not having a baby with undiagnosed special needs. also, as others have said, totally beside he point

notmyproblem · 17/11/2011 21:31

Well, the very fact that the OP can't spend a few hours with his daughter in the morning without waking up his wife to see what DD wants is a pretty good indication that, for some people, caring for babies/children is hard work. For him at least. Yet somehow when his wife does that, day in and day out, it's not work really? Or she has it easy? Hmm

LunarRose · 17/11/2011 21:32

Ninkynonk - you are totally not the only one feeling uncomfortable with this

forkful · 17/11/2011 21:32

I find it really quite sad how many women think they are justified in attacking other woman for not wanting to be treated like a doormat or Stepford Wife.

yy - it's cognative dissonance innit - we had a thread on it in feminism Wink

Rational · 17/11/2011 21:32

fuckityfuckfuckfuck

Thanks Wink

I will maintain what I said a couple of posts ago, these days some are just making waaaay to much of a meal of it.

I had my eldest daughters 25 and 23 years ago, and my wee one is 5. The difference in information given and available is enormous. I can totally see how someone starting oof now would be bombarded by health visitors and ads on TV etc etc. Luckily I was 39 and had already done it twice years before si I smiled, nodded and did what I liked. The best advice I could give any new parent is ignore your health visitor, don't watch TV ads, absolutely don't get your info randomly from the internet. Talk to your mum, your gran, and do what comes naturally.

beakysmum · 17/11/2011 21:32

Rational - please accept that different people have different experiences in parenting. Don't belittle or negate other people's experiences just because they are different from your own.

Thank you.

IneedAbetterNickname · 17/11/2011 21:34

I have three kids, I must have been very 'lucky' with all of them then.

Lucky you! I have 2 DS. They were both incredibly laid back babies, rarely cried, minimal nappy rash, tiny bit of colic etc etc. However they were NIGHTMARE sleepers! In fact, DS2 (5) still ends up in my bed most nights! All babies are different! I know lots of people who have 1 laid back, one nightmare, despite the same upbringing.