To let my almost 3yo sleep 10pm - 8am?

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Does anyone else have these sleeping hours for their small children?

Probably not on MN!

He has a 30 minute nap at nursery, and doesn't seem tired, but I do have to wake him up in the mornings...

He's not getting enough sleep.... he needs roughly 12 hours. 1/2 hour at nursery with a 8am wake up time.... 8.30pm-9pm would be better.

No worries Marianne!

I think that children being individuals not all of them are tired enough to go to bed at 7. Some need 10 hrs instead of 12. Many families might prefer to go to bad later and not having to wake up at 6.30, if they don't need to start the day so early.
My ds started to go to bed at 8 when he started school, before then he was wide awake until 10. Dd was fast asleep by 8 and slept for exactly 12 hrs, not a minute less, not a minute more.

My DD goes to bed at 7.30 - 8pm and nomally wakes about 7.30 am (love it).

10pm is late for a little one isn't it?

My DD slept 10pm to 8am at that age; she has never gone to bed much before 10pm and now she is 7 she turns her light out at about 10.30pm (or later) and gets up at 8am for a full school day + activities.

dd1 is 3yo and sleeps 7.30pm-7.15am. 10pm is very late bed time for a 3yo imo

Me, scary?

No, we did try. We spent nearly a month putting her to bed at 7.30 and getting her up by 7am at the latest. She never fell to sleep before 10. She was v good, would sit and chat to her toys, flick through her books etc but if you turned out the light she'd just lie there. She wasn't tired, no grouchiness, no fatigue. She just didn't need the sleep.

Going to school has worn her out mentally in a way I couldn't sustain. And she now needs more sleep. They also do PE 3 days a week and swimming once a week. Some children, like some adults need less sleep. DH is currently needing an extra 2 hours due to a new very challenging job and exams. Our bodies don't require sleep, it's our minds.

I am in the states and at least half my friends have a 9to10 pm bedtime.
As long as they get a ten hour chunk at night I think whatever works for you.
7pm is a British fixation I think.I like my husband actually seeing our son personally.

I agree with posters that if you're having to wake him, he probably needs to go to bed a little bit earlier, or just let him sleep later? DS is generally up 6:30-7:30 no matter what time he goes to bed to be honest, I think it's an internal rhythm that wakes him rather than set number of hours asleep.

DH tends to let me know when he'll be home so I keep DS up a bit longer if he'll be home at a reasonable hour, and when I'm working one of us obviously needs to pick him up in time for bath and bed but that sucks only seeing him for a brief half hour, so he tends to go to bed a bit later and we all sleep in a bit later.

When I'm not working I frankly can't wait for 7:30pm - it's not just about having "adult" time for me, but as much about being able to turn my brain off from looking after someone else - also not sure I'd feel comfortable watching true blood or the wire with DS toddling around!

am also and whoever suggested (in their opinion) a nap for a 3yr old is uneccessary...my DS still naps and sleeps in the night so obviously neccessary for him. Even more necessary for me at 38weeks pregnant and needing a rest in the middle of the day!

My 3 year old sleeps about 10pm-8pm, whenever he drops off really there is no set time. He sleeps in our room too, shock horror. My older 4 were the same. Eventualy they all went bed early on their own and became independant. I could never put mine to bed at 6, we have so much going on in the evenings with the 4 older DC-picking up from cubs etc.

My DD did when she was that age. I got no end of stick from the rest of the family, who were all convinced dire things would happen to a child with no proper bedtime

Agree that children are individuals when it comes to sleep.

But I am often surprised when parents moan about being woken at 5-6am when they have put the kids to bed by 7pm. You can't have it both ways.

correction - you can obviously have it both ways if you're lucky and have a very unusual child that sleeps happily for 13 hours at a time.

Yy houseofbamboo my friend moans that her DS wakes between 5.30-6am, but he's in bed by 6.30pm so I kind of think what does she expect.
She often says how jealous she is of me with DD sleeping later, but I'm sure she's not jealous at 9pm when I'm putting DD to bed, and she's already had 2.5 hrs of downtime.

Mind you, I do definitely prefer 'our way' as I love my long lies (never thought I'd see the day I thought of 8am as a long lie!!)

We get up at 6-6.30am to get everyone ready for school and walk there so most days no point trying for a lie in anyway and things tend to stay the same pver holidays and weekends.
So my one year old gets up at 6ish has an hour long nap at midday then bed at around 6pm she sleeps through until 6am.
My two year old wakes up 6ish no nap in the day bed at 6 and sleeps through ( shes really tired by bedtime).
My 5 abd 7 year olds up at 6 then go to sleep around 7.30.

Would love to get more of a lay in but mine get up early regardless of how early/late they go to bed! I would rather have them in bed early and avoid grizzly toddlers the next day!

I pick DD up from nursery between 4 and 4.30 and we do bath and bed between 6.30 and 7. As it is, she often has to be woken at 7 to go to nursery. Of course I would like to see more of her but nursery tires her out and she wants to be in bed! And I have at least an hour's work, if not two, to do before I relax so in a way I need her to go to bed on time.

DS goes down between 7.30 and 8 and generally wakes up around 7, although he has turned into a grumpy bugger some mornings so we might need to try and bring bedtime forwards a bit.

If I put my ds to bed at 10pm he'd still have me up at the crack of dawn . I wouldn't want to though to be honest, I like evenings to relax, watch tv not suitable for little eyes or to get jobs done that require a level of concentration that would be impossible with my three year old bouncing around. It's 7-8pm for hours and he generally gets up any time from 6.00am or earlier if we're really lucky

Some kids still wake up early even if they go to bed later, I've tried it, it didn't work so went back to 7-8pm. So I feel I've earnt my right to moan on the days he gets up at 5.30

I have kids, including preschoolers, who only need about 10 hours sleep/night. They wake me up in the mornings (sigh). They wake up earlier when I nudge them towards earlier bedtimes.
My neighbour has kids who slept 13.5 hours/night and she still had to wake them up.

I'd rather have 'lie in's' than more child-free hours in the evening, as I'm completely rubbish in the mornings. On the other hand I've got friends who are up with their family at 6am every morning even if they don't need to be up and about anywhere near that early, and they make the most of the extra hours by getting stuff done in the mornings. But they're all back in bed early too. So we're all time-shifted to some degree.

ime you have to be very dedicated about the later bedtimes (ie give it months for the sleep pattern to change rather than a few days) to get any sort of a lie-in though, if that's what you want. If necessary, pretend to the child that the clocks have changed or something!

8pm until 7-8am here at the moment. (6 month old and 2 year old)
Although if DD has had a nap during the day she could be up as late as 10pm.

My DS goes to bed between 7:30 and 8:30pm and will get up anytime between 8am-9:30am like this morning, i call it bliss

Oh well after all my posts about how lovely it is having a child who sleeps till 8am, she woke at 4.45 today. She was late to bed so that's 7 hrs sleep. And little madam won't go back to bed/sleep. I'm waiting for either her to conk out or DH to get up and take over