To think every SAHM, low hour PT worker and carer should read this?

[Peachy]

Well i am not but it matters to you so you must

here

Changes to system WRT worker hours

have a thread in chat and don;t want a debate, or at least won't participate iun one as petrified as we will now certianly lose our home and not up to taking flak. But if it affects you, you need to know.

At least you can claim your CB for these bare essentials fatfleur

It is also the principle.

*'If taxes increase further it just wouldn't be worth working.'

Really? Even if you earned 200K and it was all taxed at 50% you'd still have 100K. More than 99% of people in the country. And its not worth working for that? Wanna swap jobs?*

Sure, you can do DH's job if you like.

First, go to uni for 7 years. Then spend the next twenty working every hour, taking risks, re mortgaging your home . Miss every assembly and most birthdays. Come home at 9 and work until you fall asleep at 2. Land in one time zone, set off for another and don't come home for 24 nights in a row staying in some of the most dangerous countries on the planet. Be responsible for hundreds of people and be available to them 24/7. Drive 50 000 miles a year and fly so many you can't use up the airmiles. Let your wife move house on her own because you are not in the country. Repeat until retirement.

This is why some people earn that sort of money and are worth every penny. And why most people would rather stab themselves in the eye than do it. Luckily, my DH loves it but it takes a very unusual and robust person to do that sort of job.

You don't need to use private schools or private health - and I am not a hater of private health, I have used it and it may we have saved my life. These things are lifestyle choices and rather luxurious ones at that .

Again claim your cb it is your right. , but don't claim it is for essentials . It also makes a mockery of the cry that benefits should not be used to find lifestyle choices when that is exactly what many people use cb for.

This argument ensued when someone suggested anyone earning over £100K should pay 60% tax. If you add on NI that person would end up with around £35K.

How is that fair? What would be the incentive for these people to keep working in very often stressful jobs.

private education and private health are luxuries though. we have free for both in this country. Therefore you dont have to spend on them.
If I spent all my salary on chocolate and then complained there was none left it would be pointed out I chose to spend it on a luxury.

Yes at least we've got child benefits wow there are some really jealous people ou there, prehaps should work harder instead of worrying about the rest of us

Still want DH's job, kalskirata?

I have nothing to be jealous of, I have had money been there and bought the over priced t shirt. If I wanted more money I would do a different job. If i wanted more money i could have chosen a partner second time around with more money. If I wanted more money I would claim by child benefit for a start!

Yes twinkly if you say so. Again you have missed the point.

Private health is not a luxury, it is at the very top of my list of essential expenditure. Before life insurance, assurance, critical illness cover, utilities, bills and food.

We make paying for health our priority, just because healthcare can be accessed for free doesn't mean I want to rely on it.

DH did very similar lookat. 7 years in university, globe trotting, missed his kids growing up. But his job didnt even get into the 40% tax bracket. Then he got made redundant.
Many of us have equally stressful jobs but without the financial reward.
However, that pale into insignificant with the OP's original aricle with included Carers who put in 140 hour weeks for the princely sum of £55.50 a week.

I note my point earlier was missed.

If they scrap Carers Allowance and DLA my son will have to spend a large proportion of time in hospital. Currently I have done all his care, and have had hospital training to be able to be in this position (partly so DS can have as much of a normal life as possible). To do this I have been supported by CA and DLA.

It would cost them a lot more to have him in hospital, which if the Government force me into work will happen. The figures don't work and it will end up costing the Government more in our situation. How is this then beneficial to either the Government, the NHS or myself? It isn't. Hence why targeting disabled people and their carers is a poor choice.

Whilst I agree that the benefit culture we have cannot continue, unfortunately as people live longer the budget will rise due to pensions. That is where a large proportion of the benefits are going, and I feel that all benefits should be earnings based (this includes all disability benefits and pension), enabling the right areas of society to gain the support they need, but avoiding a 'catch all' benefit which can be abused or misused.

You only pay the 50% on the amount above the threshold.

I am a 40% payer, that does not mean I had over 40% of my salary, just he bit that goes over the threshold.

Are you seriously saying that we shouldn't look at what we are paying in tax and just be happy that we have enough to live on whilst we support even more families than we are doing at the moment.

What do you do for a living that's as stressful as requiring an armed guard 24/7 for much of the year? hmm?

I'm all right Jack ,now pull that ladder up.

'This is why some people earn that sort of money and are worth every penny'

Then why do nurses earn so little? Go on shift and take on responsibility for two dozen lives. A job where making a mistake can kill. Dealing with terrible, distressing illness, dying and death. Or chronic and severe mental illness mixed in with class A drug and alcohol addiction and forensic issues. Subject at times to violence and harm.

And there is no glamour in being up to your elbows in bodily fluids

I feel sorry for me and dh now, we didn't go to university, we both started work at 17. :o

Reindeer, you are a family that deserve all the help. But many are using benefits when they should be helping themselves.

fatfleur I do work hard thanks very much, I am a full time carer. If you want to give it a go you think you can handle it. I could do with a rest.

Is that you Sam Cam?

Who said nurses aren't worth more money? . Of course they should be paid more .

I knew someone would make the nurses argument. Yawn!