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To think every SAHM, low hour PT worker and carer should read this?

999 replies

Peachy · 10/11/2011 19:41

Well i am not but it matters to you so you must

here

Changes to system WRT worker hours

have a thread in chat and don;t want a debate, or at least won't participate iun one as petrified as we will now certianly lose our home and not up to taking flak. But if it affects you, you need to know.

OP posts:
Alouisee · 13/11/2011 16:40

It's not a matter of claiming CB, it just gets given to the recipient. Fwiw I didn't claim dla for my son when he was entitled to it.

fatfleur · 13/11/2011 16:40

Can you explain to me why... we should subsidise a single parent who chooses to work part time?, somebody starting their own business?, a SAHM who can only afford to do this through TC? etc Not bloody fair.

Clossaintjacques · 13/11/2011 16:40

WE pay 50% tax and have not claimed our child benefit. Children in private school and private health care even though we pay NI. I also volunteer as well as work. We give quite a lot in to society actually and I do not appreciate Kalkirata being called selfish.
You have made me quite furious actually. If taxes increase further it just wouldn't be worth working.

fatfleur · 13/11/2011 16:41

Well when 50% of you salary is taken away yo do need child bens and actually have earned it.

fatfleur · 13/11/2011 16:42

The most vunerable are not who i am talking about at all and you know it. Angry

Voidka · 13/11/2011 16:43

Of course you claim CB, a stork doesnt brink it and drop in under a gooseberry bush for you.

KalSkirata · 13/11/2011 16:43

the selfish comment I made was for people who are extremely wealthy, who have beneited from everything the UK has to offer plus our very stable society, whcih has allowed them the education and then opportunity to become very wealthy (and if you pay 50% tax you are in the top 1% in the country) planning to leave because they pay tax. If i earned over 150K I'd be more than happy. I cant even imagine that amount of money.

Far as I know CB is being stopped for people on over 43K or thereabouts. the top 10% of earners.

twinklytroll · 13/11/2011 16:44

But there are posters on here saying that benefits are for essentials and not lifestyle choices such as having children. So why are people on 40% tax or even the top rate getting child benefit. It can't be for essentials unless they have a warped view of essential.

fatfleur · 13/11/2011 16:44

I claim it and when you deduct it from the 50% tax it is nothing.

fatfleur · 13/11/2011 16:45

twnkly, you obviously have no insight into how much mony is actually taken off people in higher pay bracket. We are struggling.

Mandy2003 · 13/11/2011 16:45

Can anybody justify why, in this economic climate, that the Winter Fuel Subsidy or Allowance or what it's called, for pensioners, is not means tested?

If CB is now not going to be paid to those earning over £40,000pa then why should every pensioner, even the retired CEO of a huge company for instance, still get £200-£300 from the Government every year?

Alouisee · 13/11/2011 16:45

14 years ago when I had my first baby it was automatic when you registered the birth. No further jumping through hoops required and as none of us have a crystal ball it is prudent not to look a gift horse in the mouth. Accept it, use or invest wisely.

KalSkirata · 13/11/2011 16:46

'If taxes increase further it just wouldn't be worth working.'

Really? Even if you earned 200K and it was all taxed at 50% you'd still have 100K. More than 99% of people in the country. And its not worth working for that? Wanna swap jobs?

Lookattheears · 13/11/2011 16:46

Oh, my message got deleted.
The message where I said how dare you call people who pay more in tax in a month than most people earn, selfish. The one where I said that made me fucking angry.

I don't claim CB, it is given. And we will lose it next year .

fatfleur · 13/11/2011 16:46

Yes mandy that is true.

Alouisee · 13/11/2011 16:47

Because Mandy, it is less expensive to just pay it to everyone over pensionable age than to vet it and administer it. Pensioners incomes are very often. It straightforward.

fatfleur · 13/11/2011 16:48

Hahaha at £200k a year. i bloody wish.

Clossaintjacques · 13/11/2011 16:48

Yes KalSirata
You are talking about me. I pay 50% and if it was to go up even more moving abroad would be a serious consideration. So it is me you are talking about.

As I said, we haven't claimed CB, we privately education children and have private health care. In addition I volunteer for a charity to help people get confidence to re enter the work place and yet you call me selfish for wanting to leave the country if taxes increases.

I am still furious

Alouisee · 13/11/2011 16:48

*not straightforward Blush

twinklytroll · 13/11/2011 16:50

So one of you earns over 150k and after deductions you cannot meet your basic requirements? Either you have a warped view of basic requirements or you are crap at budgeting.

I suspect after your deductions the person in your household earning 150k brings home what my family does before tax - so after deductions. We manage without our cb. We haven't been able to buy a house and can only just afford to have a second child - but children are lifestyle choices ( according to people on this thread)

I am not saying you shouldn't claim your cb, that is your right but I can't believe it is for necessities .

fatfleur · 13/11/2011 16:50

If you earn £200k and pay 50% tax, NI, school fees and private medical insurance, you ain't rich which seems to be the issue for some haters

Voidka · 13/11/2011 16:50

You said you are pay 50% tax
Which means you must earn £150000

twinklytroll · 13/11/2011 16:51

Lookat you have made a conscious decision to claim child benefit - you fill in forms. It doesn't arrive with the afterbirth.

fatfleur · 13/11/2011 16:51

Twinly - you obviously have no idea my dear. smacks of jealousy

KalSkirata · 13/11/2011 16:51

maybe stop looking at how much tax you pay and what you actually have to live on? More than most.
Its how much you got left after tax that is the important figure.