Teachers - you're 'avvin a laugh aintcha?

[mholdall]

Kids recently had a week off - half term. They were back this week then, guess what - teacher training day. Seriously, what I want to know is this: is there ANY other job in the country where you get:

• 13 paid weeks holiday a year
• Good pay
• Good pension (believe me, you do compared to people who do proper jobs in private sector - if you dont believe me, try it)
• And yet you still need these extra days to do some training. Training for what, exactly? Seriously, for what???? And how am I, as a parent, supposed to factor childcare in here.
• Oh, and you still do nothing but moan about pay, pensions etc
• Rant over

@roundtable

Thank you Feenie

Now will it cut it with MNHQ?

In all seriousness, roundtable, the whole point of MN is to allow people to have a robust debate - without too much moderation. But that doesn't work when people break our Guidelines by attacking others.

We don't mind anyone expressing strong opinions, as long as they show respect to others whose opinions might differ from theirs.

Much better to counter an opinion you believe to be wrong or ignorant with reasoned, intelligent argument than with a pat insult, no?

To show that teachers don?t always moan about their work ? I?m a teacher and I?ve had an amazing week.
I?ve taught some cracking lessons and seen children make real progress ? thanks to recent INSET on how to improve the teaching in those areas.
I?ve had a child that I referred signed off the at risk register ? thanks to the INSET on spotting signs of abuse and families in crisis and INSET on how to support those children and families.
I?ve had a parent say thank you for the support I?m providing for their SEN child ? thanks to INSET on recent research findings on the condition and the support that is effective.
I?ve had a child with severe emotion difficulties only kick out at me, when in the past he would have thrown a chair, attacked the nearest person and run from the school ? thanks to INSET sessions on analysing behavioural triggers, defusing strategies and risk assessments.

Seriously - 'OP you are being a bit silly' is a personal attack????

Really?

@ wankspanners

Do they come in a little set enclosed in a leatherette pouch?

@Feenie

Seriously - 'OP you are being a bit silly' is a personal attack????

Really?

Well maybe not.

But see my previous point: wouldn't it be better to have a debate, rather than trade insults? Or taunt MNHQ

So the OP says teachers are on a cushy number and when the teachers here not unreasonably point out the job is not as simple as it appears they ate castigated for being "negative".

Really?

HELEN!

I was really careful- that was in no way a personal attack! I was merely drawing a comparison, and not even a conclusive one. Why the deletion?

As another person mentioned before, this thread makes for bed time reading in relation to others I've seen left to stand before.

I didn't think what I wrote was really that bad but you're the moderator and there's no way for others to make their mind up as the post has been deleted.

Point noted.

When people express themselves like the OP, it has the unf

Well said Helen. Insults are usually traded when people can't think of how to debate more coherently.

Sometimes, Helen. But sometimes the OP is so obnoxious in an attack on a group of people that all the reasoning in the world won't measure up to a succinct, ascerbic put-down.

Wank spanners does the job admirably.

Seriously??

I feel some posters might, occasionally behave as if they were a...

Nit wit
Fool
Nincompoop
Silly billy
Prat
Wally

which is a shame because I'm sure they are not really. It is just the things they say that give me that impression.

Better?

When people express themselves like the OP, it has the unfortunate consequence of leading people to believe they are utter twatbadgers, even though this may be an unfair conclusion.

twatbadgers

You are on form this morning, LeBOF.

Actually, I'd rather see the OP deleted. As a teacher I find the comments to be a personal attack and I'm incredibly insulted.

Oh, and OP? Please be the recipient of my first

You know now I come to think of it someone I knew at uni spouted similar views to the OP and he sucked donkey balls. Fact.

I bite my thumb at teacher unappreciaters.

Is that an insult? It's from Shakepeare, donchaknow?

Norfy- there's a lot of them about

That's the very worst insult, as you well know, BoffinMum!

Rofl at LeBOF @ Norfolk

I pray thee, good BoffinMom, let's retire:
The day is hot, the Teacher Bashers abroad,
And, if we meet, we shall not scape a brawl;
For now, these hot days, is the mad blood stirring.