My grandad is offended by my sons willy.

[VajazzleMyFoof]

I am potty training my son at the moment. He has just turned two. I put him pants on but he likes to take them off as he 'likes to get air to his bum bum' his words not mine.

Well Grandad is 76 and comes to visit as it is on his way to get his pension. So my son is running around with his top over his head. My partner is a Stoke fan and has taught him first.
Grandad gets offended and asks if i could cover him up as he does not want to see his genitals. I explain he is potty training and likes to hop on and off his potty as he pleases. He then mutters under his breath, makes his excuses and leaves.

Am i been unreasonable to let my two year old have no pants on, in his own home.

I think it's a choice you have to make. Do you want Grandad to visit and be comfortable or stop visiting? It doesn't matter what the 'thing' is that's making him uncomfortable really.

DS is old enough to be told that he needs to do x because it's what he's been told to do. If he can't do as he's told there's a consequence. If he can't keep his pants on when he has been told he must, then he gets a nappy put on or whatever. You don't need to explain why he needs his pants on, just that he needs to do as he's told.

It's impossible to keep a child dressed while they are potty training. You GD will just have to accept that if he doesn't want to see it he shouldn't come round for a while. I don't see what else you can do.

My ds loves being naked too.

ChippingInAutumnLover That's a ridiculous idea! Putting nappies on a potty training child! That will set him right back! Why should a child be punished with "consequences" for doing what come naturally to a child at that age FFS! They all love having their bits out. Potty training is when they discover them and it's natural to do that for a while.

My DD is a total naturalist, and loves being naked. She's 5 now and is still the same. I do, and did, get her dressed when people came round though. Even grandparents. Not sure why, just thought it was appropriate.

It is not a generational thing, it is not old fashioned modesty. Our parents, grand parents, great grand parents etc were always running around with bums and front bottoms out at age of 2 when potty training. This is not some crazy new age hippy thing. Grandpa is a cantankerous old fool.

It's his problem, not yours. And it's your house. Just ignore him - if he finds it that offensive then he'll just have to stop coming won't he.

I do agree with WhoseGotMyEyebrows. If i put his nappy on it is taking a step backwards. He is doing really well at the moment. Sometimes when he has his nappy pants or pants on he struggles to get them off in time and wees in them.

I think he just likes nothing on his lower half at all so that he can just sit on his potty do a wee then go back and play.

I have purchased some Thomas pants this morning and will attempt to put them on before Grandad visits. So we will see if i can bribe him with Thomas

I tried the Thomas pants on mine, worked to a certain extent but he used to poke his willy out the side!

whosegotmyeyebrows - for a start, it is not impossible to keep a child dressed while potty training. Secondly, they have to learn they can't do what they want when they want to all the time - sometimes they have to do as they're told. Would you let yours strip off at the shopping centre just because they want to?

He doesn't want to wear a nappy - he wants to wear pants (or not so it seems ) - he's old enough to understand that if he can't do as he's told, he will have to do something he doesn't want to do. It will only take following through and putting the nappy on a couple of times for him to see that you mean it. Of course it wont 'put him back'.

Honestly, why are you letting a 2 yo dictate what happens?

If he's not able to get pants down in time - he's not doing well. He's randomly weeing.

ChippingInAutumnLover Are you an idiot? Have you ever potty trained a child? Yes a nappy will put him back, of course it bloody will! You don't teach a child to stop doing wees and poos in their nappy by keeping them in a nappy! The OP has already said that he can't get his pants off quick enough when he needs to go and that is completely normal. I am sure you will think though that it means his isn't disciplined enough

Being naked in a shopping centre is hardly the same as a childs own home. I am often naked in my own home at certain times of the day whilst changing/showering etc but as far as I am aware I have never been naked in a shopping centre!

Frankly you sound like a prude.

"If he's not able to get pants down in time - he's not doing well. He's randomly weeing." --- And your answer to that is to put him back in nappies as force him to stay clothed.

"Honestly, why are you letting a 2 yo dictate what happens?" --- The OP is happy for the boy to be naked so the child isn't dictating.

Really you sound like one of those control freak parents who think that children must just do as they are told and have no minds, freedoms or feelings of their own. Why can't the boy just progress with his potty training as he happily is? Why are you so scared and horrified by the idea of seeing a just turned 2yos willy?!

whosegotmyeyebrows - no I'm not an idiot - but thanks for asking I mangaged to disagree with your POV without calling you an idiot - even though I think it's idiotic to make statements like 'It's impossible to keep a child dressed while potty training'.

Yes, I have potty trained children and yes, they kept their clothes on when told to.

Do nurseries allow all the potty training children to run around naked? No.

Of course being naked in your own home is different to being naked at the shopping centre - my point is that the child should be doing as it's told not as it pleases. If you are able to make them keep their clothes on at a shopping centre, you are able to make them keep them on at home when you want to.

I'm a prude? LOL Yes, of course I am. I'm not even going to tell you in what way that is so laughable

Really - you are being very dense. It is the Grandad that is bothered by the willy, not me. Why are you finding that so difficult to understand?

The OP wants Grandad to visit, Grandad is (for whatever reason) uncomfortable with her DS being naked (nope, don't understand it myself, but I accept it) so she has a choice - she either tells her DS to keep his pants on or she accepts Grandad wont visit.

You both let the children dictate what happens when you say 'you can't make them keep their clothes on', of course you can - you are the adult.

You don't have to be a control freak to bring children up to understand that when you say 'No' you mean 'No'.

PMSL @ 'It's impossible to keep a child dressed while potty training'

It is perfectly possible, trust me. I've potty trained 3 (and thank god I never have to go back there again) and none have ever needed to be naked.

OTOH, your granddad is being a bit nuts overly sensitive.
OTOH, at some point your DS is going to have to learn to do it all whilst wearing pants.

My sisters little boy rarely has pants on or anything on his bottom half. TBH I hate it. He is forever fiddling with his penis, stretching it, poking it etc. I think children should be taught some degree of modesty, if only when visitors are present.

As for changing a toddlers nappy in the prescence of someone visiting - gross.

Quite agree Melindaaa.

Well my older son who is 3 is entirely different than his brother. We pottyy trained him no problem. He loves his pants so much that he changes them about five times a day so he can wear his favourite ones. Toy Story been the most popular at the moment.

My youngest is a little monkey and an exhibitionist. He does the willy pulling too and also likes to poke it out of the side of his pants.

I will of course carry on with popping his pants on and off as he seems to be enjoying his potty training and claps himself and does a little jig whenever he uses it. He just seems to like to show everyone, poor Grandad included his willy and ''bum bum''.

He's not an exhibitionist, he's two! I know that was a joke, but I do hate it when people use adult words like that about children. And then we complain that society over-sexualises children. Well, we are society, and talking about modesty and privacy and exhibitionism just fuels the relentless progress of that sexualization.

how many times can the OP say 'bum bum' ?

AmI the only person who finds my own kids' nudity charming and Other People's kids nudity irritating?

And at bum bum - that is truly worse than waving a willy :o

'' bum bum''

It's quite sad. I mean its just a little willy.

For some reason that really made me

I would just carry on potty training him how you have been. If grandad has a problem that's his problem. I'm sure it will only be a couple of weeks max before your ds has mastered it with clothes on and grandad can resume his visits as before.

ChippingInAutumnLover Well I was going to point out all the contradictions in your posts bla bla bla, how your talking giberish bla bla bla, but I really can't be bothered. I pity your dcs for having such a domineering mother. One day I am sure we will see them on here . . . "my dm has always been a control freak, I have never been allowed to express myself or make any decisions for myself and she taught me from a young age to be ashamed of my body . . . " bla bla bla . . .

feck off you twat!

Well said Eyebrows

Okay, so you aren't interested in alternative viewpoints at all.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Grandad finds all the twee bumwillytoilet talk that probably goes on, as bad as, if not worse, than the nakedness. Most people do not find your child's private parts or bodily functions amusing or cute.

Why thank you Vajazzle