speed limit to 20

[swallowthree]

To agree with people who want to reduce the speed limit to 20 in built up areas. Given the number of lives it could save, I think its a no brainer - isn't it ? Who could possibly object and why ?

[loveglove]

They all have very good safety instruction here, but childhood gets the better of them, and they dart out or how you very aptly put it "piss about"

I know what speed I like to be doing, when a childish whim takes them! smile

You can fuck off with your passive aggressive comments and smilies about this.

It is NOT a "childish whim" to do a handstand in the middle of the road in front of a driver you have seen coming.

It is not a "childish whim" to look at an oncoming driver and continue to play ball in the road and refuse to get out of the way.

It is not a "childish whim" to look directly at the car driver and continue to do so grinning while dancing around in the road.

How can you even describe this behaviour as a "childish whim" if they are well educated about the dangers posed by a two tonne moving vehicle? Two tonnes of vehicle moving at 20mph still has the potential to kill you.

It also seems to have gone over your head entirely that I mentioned I am crawling along speed wise because I am aware of the danger!

[Feminine]

(((hugs)) loveglove

[Feminine]

Oh poor loveglove

Have a sit down dear.

[MonstrouslyNarkyPuffin]

Ah. Was just going to ask MNHQ to delete my comment as it was harsh - though it was honestly what I thought when I saw your name; I blame MN.

Now, meh.

[Want2bSupermum]

Driving here in the US most of town is at 25mph. In areas close to schools the limit is 20mph and it is enforced. Speed cameras have not taken off here... yet. Very few people speed because we have lots of police who will stop you if you are speeding or driving recklessly (far higher fines and points). They may or may not give you a ticket but they will give you a hard time. The experience isn't pleasant so people obey the limit to avoid being stopped. My back light is out and I have asked DH to pick up a new bulb so I don't get stopped when I go out later today. That is how strict they are. Ironically at night they don't care and will happily turn a blind eye to people who drink and drive (fills me with rage).

In the UK I have never been stopped for speeding. Sure I have had a summons through the mail to tell me a month after the fact but that did NOTHING to change my behaviour. Also, in the UK so many pedestrians saunter accross the street without through for the driver. Yes they get priority but it should only be at designated crossings. Good luck contesting a ticket where I live if you don't stop at a crosswalk. The judge in our town would probably double you fine. However, if the pedestrian jaywalks then it is acknowledged that the driver is not at fault and they, or their parents if under 18, must pay for damages to property etc. Guess what... no one jaywalks because parents are making their children cross the road at the proper place.

[GrimmaTheNome]

Also, in the UK so many pedestrians saunter accross the street without through for the driver. Yes they get priority but it should only be at designated crossings.

When I lived in the US there seemed to be vast swathes of residential areas where you couldn't walk at all ... you had to go to a state park or a mall. The UK is different - we are still a nation capable of walking as a means of transport. People walking or riding/driving horses made most of our roads, not cars.

Obviously pedestrians should cross with care, and use crossings if you're in the zigzag zone, but the concept of 'jaywalking' is entirely alien.

[Want2bSupermum]

Grimma Where I live there is only on stretch of road within the township that doesn't have a sidewalk. Everywhere else has sidewalks and a lot of people use the train to commute to work. Most of our friends here share a car with their OH. The school bus now only transports children who are disabled as everyone else is within a mile of their elementary school. Before they used to also transport children in elementary schools. The town has decided that those in middle and high school can walk the distance - max is just over 2 miles in each direction.

A lot of children and adults are walking where I live and also a fair number cycle.

[startail]

Please keep to limits for housing estate where children play and places where they absolutely make sense (the tiny village I know with one is fine, it's so twisty with houses right against the road that doing much more is near impossible anyway).
If you have too many of them they will be ignored, just like our local councils ridiculous addiction to 50 limits on perfectly decent A roads. The more of them there are the less notice people are taking of them.
We have several places where junctions go of twisty sections of road where they are justified, but they are now everywhere. Truly dangerous stretches of road are lost in such a mishmash of signs and slow down paint that it is just confusing.

[BerylStreep]

Someone asked how many of the posters are advanced drivers.

I am .

I would still support a 20mph limit on appropriate roads.