I'm a comedienne and I've written an entire routine about this forum

[joanjett]

I love this forum so much , I wrote an entire routine about it . Would you like to see / hear it ?

There are definitely a few smug, complacent bitches on Mumsnet, who get mercilessly mocked on here.
Which was what Mary was doing.

No she was mocking all of us LEE. :)

I don't understand why people don't want to admit that.

Also, trying to make out that it would be OK because it's only other Mumsnetters she's calling bitches is nasty and hostile.

Because I don't recognise myself or the majority of posters in her routine, I can't get offended by the 'smug, complacent bitches' label. I don't feel like I'm being mocked. Just seems like she's talking about a certain type of woman she hates and has used the MN concept to get that across, IYSWIM.

You mean just because she gets the stereotype completely wrong, that makes it OK to call us bitches and to wish violence on us, in a jokey way of course.

You might not feel like she's mocking you but in reality (not feelings) she is. She's having a go at people who post on Mumsnet, she doesn't distinguish. The fact that she uses a lazy stereotype and gets it spectacularly wrong is neither here nor there.

Like I said this is the first group I think I've ever seen full of people who don't mind being insulted. I mean I guess if people have only made a couple of posts that's understandable, but I don't think that's the case. Most people who come to Mumsnet spend rather a lot of time here.

Hating women is misogyny and extremely objectionable. Thats' the other subtext here.

You are seeing a subtext that in my eyes isn't there, all I saw was a short comedy routine about mumsnet.

That's the subtext on this thread. People thinking it's OK to call all Mumsnetters bitches because there are some women here they don't like. They're even prepared to be insulted themselves for the sake of those other women getting theirs.

Her hatred of women on the other hand is right out in the open.

Her hatred of women?

Interesting interpretation.

Agree.

That and 4x4 drivers.

Calling woman bitches and wanting to see us bleeding, harmed (dead?) is hatred, even in a jokey context.

Thunderbolt - the majority of people on this thread thought her routine was funny ( or funny(ish) ) - so you'll have to accept YABU.

Oh really Ry? That's your 'gavel' then is it? Great, let's stop discussing it.

Fwiw I've not heard the routine yet, I'm psyching myself up to listen to it once my earphones turn up (thanks ds2) but just because 'the majority' think it's funny, why the actual feck should that mean Thunderbird is wrong?

Honestly. The mathematics! The common sense! The humanity!

and from the snippets provided it sounds distinctly lowbrow.

I'm not looking forward to it.

thunderbolt wasn't the OP, so why should she have to accept that because some people find something funny she is unreasonable for objecting to the misogyny that she and several other posters have noticed? I like dark cutting edge comedy (which this wasn't) but there are plenty of comics who have crossed the line into deeply dodgy stuff, and some of them are also very funny to a lot of people. That doesn't mean the comics (or their audiences) aren't sexist or racist or disabilist as some of them certainly were/are.

I agree with you FrankNCock I think that her little piece had very little to do with Mumsnet apart from the AIBU tag line, she had just decided to conflate that routine with the 'smug mummies' bit which just doesn't fit very well at all. Of course there are some smug mummies here, but then there are a huge range of people here just as there are in any social setting. It was the preamble and conclusion that I really disliked, especially characterising those who post when they are at the end of their tether often in very very difficult circumstances as 'moaning' or chardonnay swigging. Those pieces were just cheap, and yes I think they were quite woman hating.

Women hating? Well, it was a piss take of Mumsnet, which, by its very nature, is mainly populated by women. I don't think it means she hates women per se - it's quite a jump to reach that conclusion.

26 pages of outrage ... plenty of script material here for the next instalment!

Some women are just really needy and deserve the piss ripped out of them, simply because they need to haul over the lap top and ask a forum which leg they should put out of bed first thing in the morning.

I wasnt outraged, I just thought it was crap :o

JB - do you know Jane Birkin recorded one of the worst love songs known to man? - her fake orgasm in 'je t'aime is the stuff of legends - so I really don't think you should be lecturing me on what's considered highbrow entertainment.

But I'm not actually her...did you think I might be? If not how is that relevant>

and I'm not lecturing you. That was a general comment...if that's allowed on your thread.

Ry

Rycooler - what on earth are you on about?!! You do know that JaneBirkin is not actually Jane Birkin don't you? Just as I'm not Maisie the Morningside Cat in the Aileen Paterson books.

Oh! I see, you were trying to be funny.

You obviously admire her work or you wouldn't be impersonating her would you?