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WARNING LONG!! AIBU to be really fucked off with my neighbours and not know what is the right thing to do?

109 replies

littlemisssarcastic · 28/09/2011 14:26

My 3yr old DD is a headbanger. This has been going on since she was 9 months old. I have seen my health visitor and my GP numerous times, yet they wouldn't refer DD to a paediatric consultant until she was 3, apparently the majority of DC who do headbang grow out of it by their 3rd birthday, and this is why they don't refer until after the 3rd birthday. I was advised to ignore the headbanging as much as possible, since health visitor and GP both agreed DD was probably doing it to get my attention or get something she wants. The HV and GP explained to me that although it looks violent, DD is not harming herself.

Unfortunately, I cannot ignore the behaviour because, apart from the dreadful noise, the neighbours bang very long and very loudly on the adjoining wall if they hear any noises including banging going on in my house. They bang so hard, my walls and floor vibrate. Shock

I have spoken to the neighbour and explained that DD is headbanging, that I am very sorry and that I am doing everything I can to stop it happening. I explained that DD has seen GP's and HV but they wont refer her on until she is 3. Neighbour agreed there wasn't much more I can do. (This was a while ago.)

Instead of ignoring, I quietly remove DD from wherever she is banging, and put her on a bean bag or I try to distract her.(Told neighbour this too) DD very quickly goes back to banging again, so I can be picking her up and removing her up to 60 times a day.

The neighbours have continued banging every time they hear DD banging. DD doesn't bang for more than a few seconds before I have removed her from wherever she is banging, so it is those few seconds of banging that makes neighbours bang back for a good 30 seconds. Neighbours have banged so long and so loud that DD has wet herself because she was so frightened. The main culprits who are banging apart from my DD are the 2 sons living next door, one is 20 and the other is 17. The mother of these men next door has told me that she has had to restrain her eldest from coming to my house to have a go at me over the banging. Shock

When DD was 3, I went back to my health visitor, who referred DD to a community paediatrician. Community paediatrician has told me to continue distracting, removing, and not making a fuss. I have explained to community paediatrician that I cannot ignore because of the trouble it causes with my neighbours, so I have to continue with the distracting/removing. Community paediatrician reassured me that DD will grow out of it, although she doesn't know when.

DD only ever bangs during the daytime, she sleeps all night. I know that is no consolation for the neighbours and I do understand why they are annoyed, but I do not know what to do next.

I feel it is all a little unfair tbh. Next door bang their front door shut (no it is not stiff) every night, as an example..last night they banged their front door shut between 8-11pm at least 30 times. They have also been drilling every night this week after DD has gone to bed. (After 8 pm). DD is a light sleeper, and I think this is inconsiderate, but I don't start hammering on the walls, I just grit my teeth and ignore.

I have even kept quiet while the eldest DC next door was honking his car horn long and loud outside the house at 11.20 pm the other week. Sad

I am just getting really fucked off with the audacity of them to hammer on the walls when they could knock at my door and discuss politely, instead of trying to intimidate or frighten my DD and I, as well as continuing to make all the noise they do without a single thought for us. (Shouldn't both neighbours try to consider the others, instead of one doing as they please and the other running their lives around what will or will not piss their neighbours off?) My eldest DC wouldn't dream of hammering on anyone's wall. I have known the men that live next door since they were born, yet not always lived next door to them, and I feel like I am being bullied by them. Angry My life seems to revolve around keeping the neighbours happy, yet they have no consideration at all.

So AIBU to want to go round their and have a rant at them and ask them wtf they want me to do to stop them banging on my bloody walls, even though I am not comfortable with appeasing bullies? Grin

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Hullygully · 28/09/2011 14:27

I would just blow their house up.

WomansWeekly · 28/09/2011 14:28

my advice would be calm down love

no point in getting irate and redfaced. People think better when calm

Hullygully · 28/09/2011 14:29

Mary Marryat wouldn't say that.

littlemisssarcastic · 28/09/2011 14:32

HullyGully Grin I was bracing myself for a flaming, and the first post has me laughing. Grin

Womansweekly That's good advice. I am relying on the calmer mnetters to advise me. I am feeling a little low in the calm dept right now. Grin
Will go and make a Brew and hopefully feel better then.

When I read my OP back to myself, I thought perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea to write the neighbours a note and pop it through their letter box [wimp emoticon]

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beatrixkitto · 28/09/2011 14:34

She told you she had to restrain her son from coming round? I would have said let him come round then!
What is the "big man" going to do when he comes round exactly? If he threatens you, call the police, simples!

kelly2000 · 28/09/2011 14:34

Go and speak to the parents. Explain the situation, explain the boys are intimidating you by acting like this, and then explain all the noise they make. If they keep doing it then call the council and ask for advice as it does border on bullying (telling you the eldest had to be restrained from coming to your home "to have a go" is intimidating") and they can give you some advice.

Dirtydishesmakemesad · 28/09/2011 14:34

the rational part of me says ignore them. The part of me that would probably act say bang back everytime you hear a noise from them (door/car etc etc)

aliceliddell · 28/09/2011 14:36

try your local council? they mighthave a mediation service or failing that, be prepared to tackle you VU neighbours for you

fatlazymummy · 28/09/2011 14:39

I would report them to the enviromental health noise department. You have taken steps to prevent your child from headbanging. They haven't taken any steps to prevent themselves from banging on the walls for 30 second periods and frightening your child in the process.

littlemisssarcastic · 28/09/2011 14:42

beatrix That's exactly what I did say 'Tell him to feel free to knock then!' Incidentally, he has not come round.

kelly I have spoken to the mother on a number of occasions, and she can't offer any suggestions. I have now rung my HA and am waiting for a call back but I don't want it escalating by involving HA/police unless I have to IYSWIM.

Dirty I spent 2 years ignoring them banging back while still frantically trying to stop DD banging, but in the last couple of months, it has annoyed me so much that I admit I have banged back when they have banged, but not when they bang their doors or drill, because they always do that when DD is in bed and I don't want to wake her. It has not helped.
I think it is the audacity of them expecting me to be as quiet as a church mouse. How dare I create any noise??? And to be banged back into line by two young men??? Angry

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WinterIsComing · 28/09/2011 14:42

Hully being the voice of reason as always Grin

littlemisssarcastic · 28/09/2011 14:44

Environmental health? What would they do? I didn't realise environmental health could do anything.

I can even hear them banging their front door as I type this. They have banged it 3 times while I've been writing this post.

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littlemisssarcastic · 28/09/2011 14:47

Maybe I should also mention that when they first started banging, a friend came over to tell me that the woman next door (the mother) thought the banging noise was caused by me having rampant sex. Shock

She thought my bed was banging against the wall!! I am single and my neighbour knows this. My neighbour has issues imo about sex, so maybe she believes that's what's causing the noise, despite what I am saying to her. She once screamed that I was disgusting for having sex in my house when my eldest DC was in the house at the same time. (He wasn't, but she comes to her own conclusions, god knows how she ended up with 2DC)

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beatrixkitto · 28/09/2011 14:48

LITTLEMISS I really think you need to contact EH as others have suggested, explain to them the situation, they will be the best to advise. What is the housing situation exactly..LA/HA/Private?

ScarlettIsWalking · 28/09/2011 14:49

How dreadful. Poor you. I would have to around there again calmly and explain what is going on and how it can't go onlike this.

beatrixkitto · 28/09/2011 14:49

Sorry littlemiss, didn't mean to shout lol

ddubsgirl · 28/09/2011 14:51

is thiers HA aswell?most HA & council have rules about diy after 7pm,report it.

littlemisssarcastic · 28/09/2011 14:51

beatrix I live in a semi detached HA property. I wish I lived in a detached property. Sad

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serotoninbutterfly · 28/09/2011 14:52

Environmental Health deal with noise complaints. Keep a diary of noise issues to show them when they come round. In our area, the local PCSO can often offer a mediation service so you can all sit down together and clear the air in a neutral setting, and work out mutual solutions. The drilling past 8pm is unsociable, but might be just a few days while they are decorating or whatever and unavoidable due to work etc. If they are tenants of a HA or even private then causing that amount of noise in the evening (car horn past 11pm) may be a breach of their tenancy agreement. Don't suffer in silence, you have a right to enjoy your home and so do your neighbours so you do need to talk it through.

kelly2000 · 28/09/2011 14:54

littlemiss,
Environmental health deal with noise issues. Your council will also deal with anti-social issues. They have been made aware it is a medical issue, and they continue to bully you so are being anti-social. So i would really speak to them about it, explain that they are intimidating you, that this is two young men and you are a woman on your own. You might also add about their mother screaming at you about sex.

littlemisssarcastic · 28/09/2011 14:54

ddubs Both houses are HA. I am not the only one who has had problems with my neighbour. She has fallen out with others in the street too, mainly because they don't want her or her boys to park on their shared drive, or because her boys have caused an obstruction with their cars.
She has complained about me because I didn't take my wheelie bin back in off of my drive until the evening one friday and that I didn't mow my front lawn, so it looks untidy compared to hers.

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MumblingRagDoll · 28/09/2011 14:56

I hope I don't seem out of turn....but do you get out with DD much? Keep her busy? I also have a 3 year old and know how much energy they have.

RumourOfAHurricane · 28/09/2011 14:56

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Birdsgottafly · 28/09/2011 14:58

I wouldn't go round there, it will be seen as you being confrontational by the HA.

The HA prefere you to go through them for neighbour disputes.

Some of it you will just have to live with. They sons may eventually move out. She needs to be told to shut up, the HA will do this.

Your DD's headbanging is being investigated by HCP's, so that goes in your favour.

WineAndPizza · 28/09/2011 14:58

What dickheads!! That is totally unfair - I do understand what it's like sharing a thin wall with neighbours and we have had to do a bit of banging on the wall at 3am when our old neighbour used to come in pissed and fall asleep snoring like you wouldn't believe, but this sort of behaviour is totally ridiculous. It's not disturbing their sleep. Why are two young guys in the house all bloody day anyway?