to be totally fucked off with the antisahm comments on here?

[slackers]

Wtaf are you only a good role model to your DC if you are in paid employment?
Why does someone only be valid in society if they earn?
Why should I work only to pay someone else do a job to look after my DC? wtaf is the logic in that?
ffs

We had a season ticket to the zoo and went with friends and their DCs virtually every week. Add in friends coming round/us going round there, the fact that we had neighbours with 5 similarly aged DCs, toddler groups, parties, soft play and having a close family. We did something every day, there wouldn't have been time for nursery as well.

I may be a dull and boring SAHM with no life, but I have managed to produce 2 children who don't seem to have suffered from a lack of socialisation OR stimulus.

And I find it insulting that it is implied that I'm a virtual vegetable purely because I don't work, don't want to work, and find the idea of a dinner party discussing politics and the stock market my idea of hell.

Ophuchi You're 18 month old can read? I've had that from friends as well.

Francagoestohollywood It seems to me that bonsoir is only talking from her own experience.

Opuchi you do sound a tad smug and judgemental considering you think your not the slightest bit judgemental.

hobnobsaremyfave I don't think opuchi sounds judgemental at all, she's just telling her story like it happened.

Trust me, if you'd had this neighbour, you'd be sounding smug too!

Eyebrows, yes she can sight read a few hundred words. There's a whole thread about it on behaviour and development so I'm not going to get into it here.

We're away out to the park as the sun is shining. :)

Nice

Agree with you Sarah.

We are ALL different and want to live our lives in different ways.

Some of the posts on here sound like they would fit in very well in some crack pot dictatorship. All people shall work. It is best for child/parent/state. Individuality is not allowed under any circumstances

All rather sad.

xenias post.........Someone was suggesting housewives were best at bringing up children. I was saying the ones who are housewives are on average the ones who failed at work and were not perhaps in the top earners so were probably less bright and may be not quite so good at child psychology and bringing up children. I stand by that

And these are the people that become nursery assistants and child minders.
So you don't mind leaving them caring for your children even though they have low intelligence and ''not quite so good at child psychology''

quicklookbusy - I haven't read any posts that would fit in with a crackpot dictatorship. Just people expressing their opinions about a subject that presumably matters a great deal to them. I have no idea how essential 'socialisation' is to children - tbh it makes them sounds a bit like puppies! But I suspect that a lot of the declarations made in this debate are allowing people to justify themselves - harmless by and large unless someone else decides to take it as a dig.

I agree with minx, it's how you interact with the child (how both paretns do and those around it including the toddler who might be seizing its chance to hit it over the head whether the mother's back is turned) which matters.

Parents with money tend to prefer care in their own house with a nanny,. Even better for me was with the last of our 5 when I was in my 30s me in the house much of the time too plus the nanny plus lots of siblings, plust the father. I think that was lovely but it didn't make me say - gosh wish I'd given up this career and all the satisfiaction it gives us all and the money in mym 20s to earn nothing or didn't make me think wish I'd wait to 37 to start the family as I'd not have had 5 children so easily then.

I certainly don't think children need to go to nursery. Nurseries will not take them then they have a bad cold and if you want 3 children under 4 etc it's cheaper to have their cared for at your own house or that of a child minder.

"Someone was suggesting housewives were best at bringing up children. I was saying the ones who are housewives are on average the ones who failed at work and were not perhaps in the top earners so were probably less bright and may be not quite so good at child psychology and bringing up children. I stand by that"

That is, quite possibly, one of the most demeaning and insulting things written about housewives and SAHM I have ever seen. If a man came on MN and wrote that there would be a riot. It is actually even worse that it has been written by a woman.

scarahstratton...................I agree.

But she did not mind a nanny bringing up her kids.

And she failed to comment on why she deemed it ok for an uneducated person to look after her children.

Xenias own previous words ''if you were intelligent you would not want to look after children all day''

What a fucking ridiculous attitude.

Who me?

No, of course not you!

''if you were intelligent you would understand that there is more than one lifestyle choice and not everyone is stupid enough to want to be a wage slave not want to look after children all day''

That attitude. :)

Ah I see, Xenia from what I can gather does not think you are a worthy human being unless you earn £200,000 a year have five kids and own an island.

I'd better start deciding what to have for dinner tomorrow. It's going to take me at least 24 hours to make my mind up...

How hard can it be KFC or PIZZA HUT?

LOL

ah, take it you havent saw her classic " these women are at the bottom of the food chain"

My DH is only just releasing me from the restraints!

Personally, I think I am at the top of the food chain. After all, I'm not the idiot who slaves away all day instead of doing exactly as I please.

Got to be MaccyD's, innit.

Yes I did read that comment , it actually made me laugh out loud.

Being bottom of the food chain is quite nice here, even if I do say so myself.

All these hard workers are working towards their retirement so they can do as they please.

I do it everyday................. [I do work 16 hours a week though ......oh the pressure]

Well, if I am at the bottom, I'm very happy with it. It's rather nice down here and there's plenty of cake and wine.

And I doubt I'll go bald with stress.