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to allow my baby to hurt herself?

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ThroughTheRoundWindow · 09/09/2011 16:14

Now, before you all start phoning social services I'm not sitting her at the top of the stairs with a pile of razor blades and letting her do what she will! All I mean is that occasionally I let her play with things (under supervision) which aren't strictly toys and allow her to find out what it can do.

For example yesterday she found an elastic band on the floor. She chewed it and pulled at it happily for 10 minutes before the inevitable happened and it twanged back and hit her in the face. It hurt, she cried, I gave her a hug and less than a minute later she was fine again. She never let go of the elastic band and as soon as I put her down again she started playing with it again. She didn't twang herself in the face again though.

To me this seems ok but I go to a baby group where the Mum's go through the treasure baskets and take out anything they consider might pose a risk (keys too sharp, stick too pointy, pine cone too fragile) and only let the baby touch the really smooth, really boring objects. Always one to doubt myself I do see this and sometimes wonder if I am a bit lassez-faire with my child's safety? And I dread to think what these women would do if they saw my baby at home allowed to eat small food items and chew toys that aren't 100% clean.

To me it is important to let her explore freely, but even more it is important that I trust her to explore. If I can't let her chew and elastic band now, how on earth am I going to let her ride a bike or walk to the shops on her own or any of the 1,000,000 more risky things she needs to do in order to grow up?

Is this reasonable or should I be taking more care?

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YouHaveNoPowerOverMe · 09/09/2011 17:05

Money is a big no no but I'm pretty much ok with anything else as I'm always there supervising.

Ds2 climbed on the coffee table and sofa at 10months old. I just taught him how to get off safely (he gets on his belly and pushes himself backwards until his feet hang of the edge, then lowers himself down) and now leave him to it.

Ds1 kept trying to touch the cooker, I kept telling him "No, Hot" but one day let him touch the door an he repeated "oh, hot" now everytime he see's a cooker he say's "no touch, hot"

People do think I'm a bit crazy when it comes to the things I let my boys do but as long as it's not seriously going to hurt them or kill them, then I'd rather them learn for themselves what is safe and what is not.

Seems to be working with my boys so far!

Quintessentialist · 09/09/2011 17:08

You are a bit silly to let her mouth and chew an elastic band.
Twanging herself in the face is possibly the least dangerous thing that could happen. She could choke, a piece could loosen, and get stuck in her throat.

There is a fine line between letting a baby explore and seriously bad judgement. Yours verge on the latter...

Feminine · 09/09/2011 17:10

Well I wouldn't have left her with a rubber band ,they still put everything in their mouths ...choking is very possible.

Other stuff,I guess it is up to you ... its not particularly alternative parenting in my mind.

When babies though ,you have to watch them like hawks.

Feminine · 09/09/2011 17:11

when babies are small

cadelaide · 09/09/2011 17:11

cheekymonkey but I was working on my pelvic floor.

Concentrating so hard, in fact, that I neglected my child Wink

WidowWadman · 09/09/2011 17:12

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HotBurrito1 · 09/09/2011 17:13

Youhavenopower -great name.. from Labyrinth? I see it much the same.

People bang on and on to my boy (3) about shutting his hand in doors, if anything it makes him nervous of doors and more likely to hurt himself in my view. He has always been allowed to explore things for himself and has never got properly hurt.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 09/09/2011 17:17

Widow - no, i just don't like smug twats who tell people to "get over themselves".

As it happens, my DD has severe autism and isn't capable of learning what is harmful so I have to keep a close eye on her. So you are barking up the wrong tree if you think I am just scared to let my child learn how things are Wink

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 09/09/2011 17:19

seriously, what a stupid arsey comment though Hmm

halcyondays · 09/09/2011 17:24

I wouldn't let her chew on an elastic band in case she choked on it,
I would take it away and give her a toy or something suitable instead.

piprabbit · 09/09/2011 17:26

It is not a parent's role to remove all trace of risk from a baby's experience. Allowing children to take risks and learn from them is something to be encouraged.
It is, however, the parent's role to closely monitor the level of risk and step in when the child is genuinely in danger.
Even when simply standing back and allowing a child to do something risky, the parent remains responsible for the consequences of the behaviour - any harm that comes to the child would be the parent's responsibility.

Ultimately it is down to individual families to decide what level of risk they feel is acceptable - for some it will be none, for others it will a lot. However, I'm not convinced that allowing a baby to chew an elastic band for 10 minutes can really be justified as a 'learning experience'.

WidowWadman · 09/09/2011 17:29

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halcyondays · 09/09/2011 17:30

I can vouch for the fact that my children have done things that hurt them over and over again, e.g jumping off sofas. I wouldn't assume she will learn from it.
Pine cones and the like I wouldn't mind under very close supervision.

I don't really see what this has to do with letting children go for bike rides on their own when they are older tbh. You need to be vigilant with babies and toddlers, obviously as children get older you have to learn to let them become independent, but you do this when you feel they are sensible enough to cope.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 09/09/2011 17:31

It was.

But you made it about me by asking if I was neurotic. I explained why I was not.

WidowWadman · 09/09/2011 17:35

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slavetofilofax · 09/09/2011 17:37

YANBU, it's fine for babies to play with lots of non baby things under close supervision, they learn from it. You might want to get some thicker elastic bands though.

glitterkitten · 09/09/2011 17:38

YANBU.

Experience is life's best teacher and if you are there to keep it within safe limits then theres really no problem

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 09/09/2011 17:38

I said that because you told people to get over themselves, which was a tiny bit arsey, non?

Anyway..actually I AM neurotic, have to be, as DD tries to climb out of window.

We just had differing opinions over OP is all. No need for anyone talking about "neurotic" or "getting over themselves" surely?

I don't judge anyone's parenting tbh, I just gave MY take on the OP.

OhdearNigel · 09/09/2011 17:38

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ChristinedePizan · 09/09/2011 17:40

I parent like you, OP. Every now and then DS did find some things unpleasant and I agree that treasure baskets are supposed to be about different textures. It's quite hard to break a pine cone.

This thread reminds me of the thread (or might have been a Q&A in a newspaper) about wanting to astroturf the patio in case the toddler fell over :o

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 09/09/2011 17:41

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2shoes · 09/09/2011 17:43

yabu
but maybe you enjoy watching your child cry.
why let a baby hurt themself, seems odd to me.

as for Unspecialneedsy...........wtf!

Milsean · 09/09/2011 17:46

how will they ever learn anything if you don't let them explore? Or course I let them play with sticks and pine cones and all kinds of things. I keep them out of the bleach and the knife drawer, but thats kinda obvious.

YANBU.

wonkylegs · 09/09/2011 17:47

I don't think of myself as a relaxed parent, but experience of threads like these and other parents at playgroup, NCT, nursery etc tells me that I am.
I couldn't buy all that expensive crap essential safety gear to 'baby proof' my house as it would have meant that I wouldn't have been able to use stuff myself (limited dexterity, strength etc due to disability) so my son never had a stair gate, never had things to stop him falling, trapping his fingers etc. I have never spent my life sifting through the 'dangerous' stuff, snatching stuff away nor chasing after him. I do keep an eye on him and teach him why the 'properly' dangerous stuff is dangerous. Result is I have a confident, danger aware 3yo who is good on his feet and aware of what's going on around him. Hopefully he'll have a good immune system (as long as he doesn't get mine Sad) and is robust as they come Grin

Glitterknickaz · 09/09/2011 17:48

Who's to say the OP's DC doesn't have SN?
I didn't know til mine were toddlers.
I wish mine did learn from experience, sadly they don't so it just happens over and over and over (repeat ad infinitum)