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to feel short changed by feminism?

309 replies

ThroughTheRoundWindow · 03/09/2011 21:09

So here's the thing. Back in the day the young women of the baby boom generation demanded the choice to work or care for their babies. some of them went out to work, and because their families had two incomes they could afford to spend more on their houses and on filling them with consumer goods.

But more families with more money pushed up the price of houses.

Roll on a generation and it is impossible to afford a mortgage on one moderate income. To pay for a house you both need to work. Well that isn't true, we could have either bought a ex-council house on a dodgy estate, or I could have married a much richer man. (But we couldn't bring ourselves to raise a child on an estate and I fell in love with a council employee).

Had a been born a generation earlier my husband's local government salary would have paid for our modest house in an unfashionable suburb and I could (if I had chosen) have given up work to care full time for our family. Instead I have no choice - I have to return to work and leave my baby in daycare.

Without feminism I could have done what comes most naturally to me and been a homemaker. Feminism stole that option from me. Now I have to leave my baby to be raised by a stranger and go out to work in a job I care nothing for and get nothing (except a salary) from.

Ok, a little maudlin from too much beer, but someone explain to me why I am genuinely unreasonable to feel this way?

OP posts:
carminagoesprimal · 04/09/2011 19:32

Yes I know it can all be done working full time - and I have nothing but admiration for women who combine both.

scottishmummy · 04/09/2011 19:32

changing sheets daily is unnecessary and just making work for self

LeninGrad · 04/09/2011 19:32

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carminagoesprimal · 04/09/2011 19:33

Sheets and pillow cases need to be put in the boil wash daily - especially in the Summer.

Portofino · 04/09/2011 19:33

Well then it is not a FT job is it?

noblegiraffe · 04/09/2011 19:33

I think if you're washing your sheets daily you're trying to create work to fill your time.

Paying bills = direct debit, no? Our bills are all paid on time and it creates next to no work at all.

Portofino · 04/09/2011 19:34

boil wash? How dirty ARE you?

hairylights · 04/09/2011 19:35

carmina what does your partner do in terms of "domestic" stuff that might enable you to work without "exploiting" other women (other than "attend the garden")

If you are a sahm that is your choice and we all have choices.

scottishmummy · 04/09/2011 19:35

of course housewifery isnt a job.its set of tasks.and not ft set of tasks
and washing sheets daily is just filling your time doing stuff,just because

noblegiraffe · 04/09/2011 19:36

Well now we know what's causing global warming - it's carmina and her daily boil wash.

Portofino · 04/09/2011 19:36
Grin
carminagoesprimal · 04/09/2011 19:37
Grin
carminagoesprimal · 04/09/2011 19:40

Dh cooks - that's about it - ( around the house )

If I worked F/T ( which is my intention very soon ) I will just get up 2 hours earlier to get everything done -

scottishmummy · 04/09/2011 19:43

carmina why are you so attached to unnecessary tasks. its a bitty martyred mum at the altar of perfect home

do you sincerely plan to work ft and do domestic chores to Nth degree- why

HereBeBolloX · 04/09/2011 19:44

OMG, you boil wash your sheets daily?

One of the things I've always said, was that if I were filthy rich and had servants, i would have clean sheets every single day.

But I draw the line at actually doing the labour myself, to make that desirable state of affairs happen. Grin

scottishmummy · 04/09/2011 19:46

i hope you dont convey to your dc that such skivvying about and unnecessary work is good or desirable. and i hope they dont watch you and internalise such unnecessary domestic graft as womens work

NormaStanleyFletcher · 04/09/2011 19:48

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Marking place as I need to read this thread tomorrow on my phone (while I commute)

The idea that there were any non well off women who had the choice to not work really has me tickled.

Animation · 04/09/2011 19:50

"i hope you dont convey to your dc that such skivvying about and unnecessary work is good or desirable. and i hope they dont watch you and internalise such unnecessary domestic graft as womens work"

What she says. Grin

TheRealTillyMinto · 04/09/2011 20:13

why do sheets need boil washing every day?

HereBeBolloX · 04/09/2011 20:14

That's a very indiscreet question Tilly...

TheRealTillyMinto · 04/09/2011 20:15

you are quite right ... now i am blushing ... but go on... what is with the boil wash. is it a post shagging thing?

TheRealTillyMinto · 04/09/2011 20:35

...i am off to discuss with DP we 'aren't doing it right' because our sheets dont need boil washing daily... oh and it started with so much positive talk about feminism....[sigh....]

HereBeBolloX · 04/09/2011 20:44

[Grin]

LOL, you have simply dragged the thread down, do you know that? Dragged it down I tell you.

I'm now considering the environmental impact of condomless daily shagging....

ChrissasMissis · 04/09/2011 20:49

God, YANBU. Can't afford to stay at home with my babe and can't afford to buy him a home to live in. I remember when I was at secondary school and discussing the future with my sixteen year old friends, we felt GUILTY for admitting that we might quite like to have families and be SAHM. That attitude would NOT have flown with our teachers at my all-girls school...

Portofino · 04/09/2011 20:52

Maybe Carmina is right! Her dh obviously comes home to freshly laundered sheets, nutricious meals and a lovely, fragrant wife. I thought I was doing OK with the slightly drunk harrassed look, a fray bentos pie in the oven and a dd in pyjama top and pants. So THAT is why she gets all the hot loving! Grin

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