Disabled parking badges are for the designated places NOT where the hell you like

[lilmissminx]

Really need a vent! Am sick to death of seeing cars parked in the parent and baby/toddler spaces just because they have a blue badge, and not a child in sight The other way around and you wouldn't hear the end of it about inconsiderate parents etc. I fully agree with the need for the disabled spaces etc, but I don't like having to choose between leaving my baby locked in the car to return the trolley (especially if out of sight) and him getting totally soaked etc if I take him with me.
Disclaimer This is made more annoying for the particular store I am referring to as there are only 2 parent spaces, and more than a dozen disabled badge holder ones. Yet because the parent ones are in between the two sets, they use those and leave all the other badge spaces empty.

"So the argument that they are a 'new thing' to be ignored and boo frickin hoo is a bit unfair?"

The argument is that P&C spaces are a marketing ploy, not a legal requirement. Unlike the disabled bays.

Note I haven't answer the questions because I don't know the answer in that particular shop.

"That doesn't mean that they wouldn't have appreciated the help had it been given"

Appreciating and demanding are a little bit different.

Meh, when we had a weekend away recently the hotel we stayed at had shared parent with child/ disabled spaces.

We have a blue badge because four of the children in our group are disabled, we could,t get a space by the hotel so had to trawl all luggage across the car park along with one child in a wheelchair and two with absolutely no awareness of danger, obviously the needs of people who just so happen to have kids trumps the needs of others.

Fwiw tho, we've never had a car, we still don't. I really don't understand how I managed all those years walking to super markets AND across the car park, I must be a saint or a very special person

P&C spaces should be at the furthest end of the car park, away from the store with enough space for them to park the enormous battlecruisers many drive but can't park efficiently.
Double sized spaces possibly, with racks of rain ponchos for the children.

She's not demanding but come
On... There were disabled spaces right next to her!!!! It's just common courtesy!!!!

but I don't like having to choose between leaving my baby locked in the car to return the trolley (especially if out of sight) and him getting totally soaked etc if I take him with me.

What rubbish!. You park your car near to a trolley bay then, when you get to the supermarket. What the hell do you think will happen to your child in the ten seconds it takes to put a trolley back anyway? He is hardly likely to be out of sight either.

What really pisses me off is stores like my nearest sainsburys where the parent and child parking is undercover and right by the entrance, and nearer than the disabled parking. So fair play to the blue badge drivers if they use those spaces instead.

"There were disabled spaces right next to her!!!"

Where did she say "right next to her"?

That's an assumption I didn't make. I assumed that they just parked in the space because it was in the blue badge area and didn't bother checking.

Apocalypse although awful, it isn't the same scenario at all

What a lot of VERY ANGRY PEOPLE ON SUNDAY MORNING

I'm not disputing that people with disabilities can be just as uncooperative and stroppy as parents of young children BTW.
Sometimes you get a double whammy.

She said the disabled area was split and
On either side of her so .... Surely unless it's the worlds
Largest supermarket they were very close? They have to be close to door for
Disabled access anyway?

At one of the supermarkets close to me, the P&C spaces are right outside the shop and the disabled ones further away. That is totally fucking bonkers.

Just park further away OP, and near a trolley store.

'What the hell do you think will happen to your child in the ten seconds it takes to put a trolley back anyway?'

The possibilities are endless.

Why not Kayano ?

I'm only pointing out that P&C spaces aren't needed, disabled spaces however are !

Just a thought, but if the spaces are all mixed up or very close together, it might be that the badge holders haven't noticed that there are p&c spaces as well as disabled bays and have parked there without noticing.

P&C spaces are something that you only really become aware of if you have children. If you don't, or yours are all grown, then it is possible to not be aware of them.

Maybe the disabled person parking was with someone else AND a child who went INSIDE the shop before he/she parked....Maybe the OP'ssurveillance equipment failed to pick this up? We'll never know.

yabu
My dd has a blue badge, so I will park where I need to park when I have her with me. be it a disabled pay or a P & T bay.
suppose the op would prefer it the world was designed just round her baby

But the parent spaces are right in the middle of the blue badge spaces so it can't really make any odds re: distance. Plus there are just two of them. I don't think it really justifies the general abuse.

Although I do think it's a bit drippy to worry that much about leaving your baby in the car while you take your trolley back. That thought has never occurred to me in my whole life.

But your car park had joint p&c and disabled spaces. Which IMO is wrong and in that scenario they Gould have just been disabled spaces as I agree disabled people get priority.
But if there are spaces for both.... Just use the correct designated space

Before I was diagnosed and ds was small there was no such thing as parent and toddler and we just made do. having kids is not an illness it is ok to struggle!

Yes, that argument about siting the blue badge bays closer and more conveniently is the only one which can be made here.

Apart from thinking that perhaps blue badge bays might be empty because people had finished their shopping and left, but not in time to leave those spaces for those who came after, thereby forcing the later-comers to park in P&C spaces.

The disabled parking spaces should be the ones most convientley placed. Those that are disabled trump the needs of parents. The spaces may have been full when they arrived so have had to use P&C.

In all fairness to the OP, the law states that car seats must be used and they are difficult to get DC's out of when the parking spaces are so restriced on space. I also shopped with my DD's at a time when P&C parking didn't exsist, but i didn't have to use car seats (the car seats around wasn't safe anyway).

We should be campaigning for bigger parking spaces in general, not fighting each other. I know of families that have to have 7 seaters to get around, they wasn't needed years ago, there has been big changes in the law and insurance law since then. We also had good local shops then as well.