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Disabled parking badges are for the designated places NOT where the hell you like

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lilmissminx · 28/08/2011 11:12

Really need a vent! Am sick to death of seeing cars parked in the parent and baby/toddler spaces just because they have a blue badge, and not a child in sight Angry The other way around and you wouldn't hear the end of it about inconsiderate parents etc. I fully agree with the need for the disabled spaces etc, but I don't like having to choose between leaving my baby locked in the car to return the trolley (especially if out of sight) and him getting totally soaked etc if I take him with me.
Disclaimer This is made more annoying for the particular store I am referring to as there are only 2 parent spaces, and more than a dozen disabled badge holder ones. Yet because the parent ones are in between the two sets, they use those and leave all the other badge spaces empty.

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OracleInaCoracle · 28/08/2011 11:25

Oh ffs

Empusa · 28/08/2011 11:25

Maryz Has it spot on!

5inthebed · 28/08/2011 11:26

P&T spaces are a privilege, do you think being disabled and having a blue badge is the same?

No? Thought not?

And nobody is going to pinch your child from your locked car while you return the trolley. Car parks are not full of peadophiles and child smuggling rings.

MyDadWasADesertRat · 28/08/2011 11:27

YABVU.

Disability does out rank your inconvenience I'm afraid. Get over it.

StewieGriffinsMom · 28/08/2011 11:28

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AuntiePickleBottom · 28/08/2011 11:28

yabu, MIL has one of these badges and in the booklet it didn't say she couldn't park in P&C spots

MollieO · 28/08/2011 11:29

If I take my mum out and the only spaces available are P&C spaces I will park there. She won't and it makes me cross that she won't if she is on her own. Take it from me you are far more mobile even with a baby in tow than people like my mother who walks slowly with two walking sticks. She can't use an umbrella obviously and cannot get her coat on in her car because of arm mobility issues. I doubt that anyone who has a disabled relative would begrudge them parking in a P&C if that is all that is available.

There is nothing to stop a parent with a baby parking near the trolleys even if they aren't P&C spaces.

noddyholder · 28/08/2011 11:31

yabu being disabled is not about convenience it is about accessibilty and need. When you have toddlers you may find it easier to be closer etc but you can manage without whereas with disabled people it is the only way they can shop easily. How can you begrudge them this. I have cardiomyopathy and have a blue badge but only use it when I am having a bad day and my breathing is terrible the rest of the time I don't bother as the abuse I have had because I 'look' ok has made it not worth it!

Maryz · 28/08/2011 11:31

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AuntiePickleBottom · 28/08/2011 11:31

kayano, perhaps the P&C spaces are closer......and with someone with limited mobility it can make it easier for them to shop

ChristinedePizan · 28/08/2011 11:31

Whining about P&C parking is about the most spoiled PFB thing you can possibly do. Whining about disabled people using P&C parking is beyond vile.

So yes, YABVVVVVU

plupervert · 28/08/2011 11:31

You are being unreasonable and very selfish. Being all huffy about your child's getting wet is only a fig-leaf, and doesn't quite cover the fact that you are pissed off for yourself, and not really thinking about how lucky you are to be able-bodied. On days when you don't have the baby, you could go into the shop entirely unencumbered. I don't imagine disabled people can get someone else to look after their bad back/ misaligned foot/ inability to walk, just for an hour so they could do the shopping, do you? And before you say someone could do the shopping for them, think of two things: (1) they might need to shop for something they hadn't needed till they ran out of it that morning, and (2) the "bargain corner" doesn't appear online, either.

Honestly, becoming a mother, and having to manoeuvre a pram in a world which has a lot of steps, has made me start to understand what it is like to have physical difficulties getting around. It's sad that becoming a mother seems to have done the opposite to you.

Blueberties · 28/08/2011 11:31

"Seriously, you need to grow the fuck up, get a brain and some basic thinking skills."

Who on earth posts like this.

You might be right OP, it sounds like you are cross because there are blue badge spaces empty, which you can't use, but no baby and child spaces because they're being used by blue badges.

If they have the option then it's inconsiderate but they might not eg all the blue badge spaces might be full, and then the cars leave so it looks like the people in the parent and child bay had the option of parking in an empty space but didn't.

However in the interests of human equality I would say it's entirely possible for disabled people to be as inconsiderate as able people.

Morloth · 28/08/2011 11:32

I think I must just be special.

For 5 years we didn't have a car at all and did all the shopping on buses etc.

Now I have a car again and 2! children one of whom is a baby. And still, somehow, against all the odds, I manage to get the groceries!

Thats 2! children!

I had no idea I was so gifted, managing this before coming to MN. I just assumed I was extremely priviliged in life, what with having a car and enough money to go shopping and a couple of healthy kids.

Who knew I should have been worrying about where disabled people park, I mean the selfish fuckers, using their disabilities like that.

You know what OP? I am going to chop my leg off, that way I will have a much easier life than I do now!

Get. A. Fucking. Grip.

Empusa · 28/08/2011 11:32

"I don't imagine disabled people can get someone else to look after their bad back/ misaligned foot/ inability to walk, just for an hour so they could do the shopping, do you?"

Quite.

Empusa · 28/08/2011 11:33

Morloth You should write a book, sharing your special skills! It would be invaluable! Grin

InTheArmyNow · 28/08/2011 11:33

YANBU
Disabled people do need some spave that are easier to get in and out because of their restricted abilities. That's why the lasw says there must be some disabled spaces.
Parents with babies also do get on better with wider spaces for the same reason. That's why there is some P&T spaces.

Now the question isn't whether disabled people can or can not park on P&T spaces. Everyone can actually but it is nice and respectful of everyone to keep the P&T spaces for those who need them.
I personnaly would expect everybody, disabled or not, to be that respectfull.

So the question is really: Is it really so much more difficult or inconvenient for disabled people to be 2 spaces down that row of cars and use the disabled spaces saved for them?
And was it really a good idea to put the P&T spaces the closest to the door entrance, closer than the the disabled ones?

Empusa · 28/08/2011 11:34

"but it is nice and respectful of everyone to keep the P&T spaces for those who need them."

You mean like disabled people need them?

Blueberties · 28/08/2011 11:36

Is everyone answering a different OP to me? She said there are blue badge spaces available and not just one or two, but many, but instead they park in the child spaces.

Oh well. Maybe I'm wrong.

Empusa · 28/08/2011 11:37

"need
noun
1.a requirement"

"want
verb

  1. to feel a desire for; wish for:"

HTH

Kayano · 28/08/2011 11:37

I still don't get the op bashing I'm afraid
Yes there did not use to be p&c spaces... But there didnt use to be disabled spaces either? So the argument that they are a 'new thing' to be ignored and boo frickin hoo is a bit unfair?

Also... Op never said the p&c spaces were closer to the entrance?

Also... If there are disabled spaces, and p&c spaces... Why can't everyone just use their designated spaces?

Granted I am speaking as childless so I don't really know lol

fedupofnamechanging · 28/08/2011 11:38

I always promise myself that I am going to stay off these threads and yet here I am.

I think that disabled people should park in the bays allocated to them, unless they are full, in which case they should use whatever they need. No, p&c are not 'necessary' but they are helpful to a lot of people and it is nice to be considerate of everybody's circumstances.

If a disabled person has the choice of 2 spaces, then why shouldn't they park in the one that is designated for their use and leave the other one, so that shopping is that little bit easier for a parent with car seats to manoeuvre and toddlers. Both spaces are wide and usually both are the same distance to the shop. I think it is basic manners.

OP, you will always get people on these threads who say that they struggled with 64 kids back in the day and had no special consideration. That doesn't mean that they wouldn't have appreciated the help had it been given or that we should not consider the difficulties of shopping and parking with young dc, just because people in the past weren't considered.

Kayano · 28/08/2011 11:38

I'm on your team Blue

Empusa · 28/08/2011 11:38

blueberties But why do you think they'd be using the P&C spaces rather than the empty disabled spaces? Is it at all in the realms of possibility that the P&C spaces might actually be more useful that the currently empty disabled ones?

Eg. closer to the store

InTheArmyNow · 28/08/2011 11:39

No I mean like the 2 questions I asked at the end of my answer

^Is it really so much more difficult or inconvenient for disabled people to be 2 spaces down that row of cars and use the disabled spaces saved for them?
And was it really a good idea to put the P&T spaces the closest to the door entrance, closer than the the disabled ones?^

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