Disabled parking badges are for the designated places NOT where the hell you like

[lilmissminx]

Really need a vent! Am sick to death of seeing cars parked in the parent and baby/toddler spaces just because they have a blue badge, and not a child in sight The other way around and you wouldn't hear the end of it about inconsiderate parents etc. I fully agree with the need for the disabled spaces etc, but I don't like having to choose between leaving my baby locked in the car to return the trolley (especially if out of sight) and him getting totally soaked etc if I take him with me.
Disclaimer This is made more annoying for the particular store I am referring to as there are only 2 parent spaces, and more than a dozen disabled badge holder ones. Yet because the parent ones are in between the two sets, they use those and leave all the other badge spaces empty.

FFS get a blardy life. Do you think it matters a jot where disabled people park? It's just good to see people getting out and about, surely?

They never even had mother and baby parking when mine were little. I can see that you need to open the doors wide but I fail to see why they need to be near the entrance-as long as they don't cross the car park they could be tucked away and then 'inconsiderate' people who can't walk far wouldn't want one. A mother with baby hasn't lost the use of her legs!
I can't believe the sense of entitlement that some people have-you would think they would be only too pleased to help a disabled person-not whinge that their toddler might have to walk.
I suggest that you buy waterproofs and an umbrella.

Dont you remember what it was like exotic? We starved and our children melted.

Those terrible days before special parking spaces.

Times were hard in the 80s/90s

But what about the other argument oft used on these threads?

'have you ever tried to juggle (??) two children, a changing bag and twenty bags-for-life across a busy car park??? I am SORRY but the safety of my children comes first!!!!'

Well, I remember going into work, having just had a disasterous miscarriage that nearly killed me through massive haemorrhage, and still anaemic from it. My co-worker, who had admitted that she had no symptoms from her supposed disability, was happily parking in the disabled parking space. I was walking, with a lot of difficulty, between work sites and up a steep hill, because I had no guarantee of a parking space, as she had.

I remember also the period immediately after my Caesarian section,before I had set up shopping online, when I was extremely physically weak (again having haemorrhaged post birth) and unable to walk far myself.

It may well be that some of the (more poorly) mums who want to use the spaces designated for them actually have as much or more need of such help as some of the (less poorly) Blue Badge Holders you know. The system is not very sensitive to immediate need.

I would happily give up a space designated for me to a wheelchair user or someone in genuine need.

i am sure there never were parent and child spaces when mine were little. at least not where i parked. you just managed because its not that hard, not insurmountable.
P @ C parking should be banned. leaving more space for the rest of us

'have you ever tried to juggle (??) two children, a changing bag and twenty bags-for-life across a busy car park??? I am SORRY but the safety of my children comes first!!!!'

Times were indeed hard thefirstMDV -even harder for my mother, she had to get a baby, toddler, pushchair and bags on the bus!
You wish people could time travel backwards sometimes!
You keep them all on the trolley to the car and your DCs will be perfectly safe! They can get a little damp and survive.
(why do women become such prima donnas once they have a DC?!

When DD1 [20] was little there was no parent and child parking they where just starting to come in when DD2 nearly 16 was about 3 I managed and I also had DS [17] who has LD's and ASD and was a bolter. Wasn't even special trolleys either.

I would ban mother and baby parking-or at least tuck it away in a far corner (on the same side as the shop door so that you didn't cross roads)

Our ASDA has them in the middle next to a walkway and pedestrian crossing I did see a woman last week parked in a disabled bay I know her she has a severely disabled DD but she was on her own. I thought you could only park in them when disabled person is with you maybe I'm wrong.

[ponders] Do you think the actual reasoning behind P&C spaces goes something like this?

Store manager: Bloody PFB mummies are driving me insane. When will they realise the world does not revolve around them?

Colleague: Why not put special spaces for them near the entrance? It will be one less thing for them to have a hissy fit about AND it will get them in and done and out of our hair as quickly as possible.

Store Manager: What about our disabled customers?

Colleague: I am sure they would accept a trade-off of occasional parking rants on parenting forums for the benefit of much less exposure to the PFBs and their water-soluble babies.

Store Manager: You are a genius. Have a massive pay rise.

Or something like that.

Get over it OP. If the most you have to worry about in terms of shopping/mobility is the prospect of your baby getting a bit wet then you are very lucky and I suggest you read a few threads about the difficulties faced by some posters with disabilities or disabled children.

i think when you are issued with a blue badge OR have a child you shoud also be allocated a parking space, along with timetable as to when you are allowed to use it.

like a timeshare.

you would be given a space at the appropriate type of supermarket, according to social status and income.
if you needed a bit of nice ham, for a party for instance or some cheap sausages if your MIL is coming round, then you will be able to apply for a parking space at a supermarket other than the one you have been allocated.
there will be no guarantee of a space, unless there is a swap-option. ie a similarly-positioned shopper wants to swap with you for a day.

trying to use AN Others parking space at a time other than one you have special dispensation for will result in immediate death.

or licence only to online shop.

YANreallyBU. I am really sick of this '"official" disability trumps any other access requirement' bollocks. Lots of parents are also disabled, and of course then they can use the P&C parking (I don't use either, as I am a disabled parent who can't drive, yay dyspraxia, so have to use the bus). Lots of disabled people who are just as disabled as people who do have blue badges don't have a badge so can't use the space. Lots of people (obviously not all disabled people, but it's not as clear cut as the 'oh poor tragic disabled people' lobby- who generallky aren't disabled, I've noticed!- want to make out) are temporarily disabled or disabled due to lifestyle choices (not exercising enough, smoking, not controlling diabetes, etc.), so that's no different from 'choosing' to be a parent and temporarily having mobility restricted children (as though it was a choice to be a parent when unplanned pregnancy is so common and no contraception is 100%). Both disabled people and parents, and anyone else with a need, has a right to access common spaces. None of these needs morally trumps another, and playing oppression olympics helps no one. Disabled people and parents, and disabled parents, all benefit from increased accessibility, and should stop fucking bitching at each other and instead work towards proper access for everyone. How is this so hard to understand?

herecomesthesun - serious question. Your co worker with the symptomless disability who nevertheless got a Blue Badge, would she be prepared to contact me and tell me how the hell she did it?

I am not sure I can afford to take another two days off work next year to be reinterviewed for mine. There must be some clever way of applying to wrangle Badges when you have nothing obviously wrong with you.

Same goes to all those who 'know' people who have got Blue Badges undeservedly. Please, I really would like to know.

Where is the OP? Waiting for a P&C parking space maybe.

When I was growing up we didn't even have a car. Or a supermarket for that matter. We had to walk to the local shop.

I haven't read all the posts so apologies if it's been said before-
OP . Has it occured to you that the blue badge holder is also a child? OR that they are an adult with a child of their own, so are therefore 'entitled' to park in either spot?

BTW, I have a child who is a Blue Badge holder and one of my other children is under 5. Should I use P&C spaces or should I stick to the Blue Badge spaces? Choices, choices...

Hey! Get this one! Sometimes, I park right at the back of the car park, as far away from all the other lazy buggers other cars as I can, and let my children have a little run round before/after doing the shopping!!!

ER WTF? If you have a blue badge you can park in any space you like - because having a disability is a need that far outweighs having a child with you ffs.

Why do you think you are so entitled because you have a child? I have three and it would not cross my mind to feel annoyed about a person with a blue badge parking in the parent and child space.

Sorry wibble I did try and read that post but I just couldnt make sense of it.

I am not commenting on grammer or spelling. I dont do that.

I just dont understand what the fuck you are on about.

Er, how does having a child (without a disability) equal having a mobility problem?

If you are able-bodied then it shouldn't matter where you park to push your pram or carry your child. There is a difference between not wanting to walk across the car park in the rain and not being able to walk that far.

my son(nt) once got wet, he was fine

I like the idea of P&C spaces near walk ways. Disabled next to the entrance.

Could we also have a designated area for massive cars which take up so much space you can't physically open your door when they park next to you.
Then a boy racer/dangerous driver area-away in the corner perhaps with strobe lighting and fast furious music to accompany there visit.

Then a multi car "chit chat" area for all those drivers who pull up along side one another wind down their windows and strike up a conversation, blocking accesss for all other drivers. This could be called park and chat.

Finally a brightly painted area with distinctive signs such as a massive elephant with the words "Remember you have parked near the big pink elephant" sign for those of us who cannot remember where the hell their car is.

[screams]

2shoes are you sure ?

Have you had him checked out? He might have contracted a slow developing dissolving condition!

WibblyBibble I am rather busy looking after my severely disabled dd. sorry can't be arsed to fight for better access for someone who is so wet they are scared their baby might melt.