Disabled parking badges are for the designated places NOT where the hell you like

[lilmissminx]

Really need a vent! Am sick to death of seeing cars parked in the parent and baby/toddler spaces just because they have a blue badge, and not a child in sight The other way around and you wouldn't hear the end of it about inconsiderate parents etc. I fully agree with the need for the disabled spaces etc, but I don't like having to choose between leaving my baby locked in the car to return the trolley (especially if out of sight) and him getting totally soaked etc if I take him with me.
Disclaimer This is made more annoying for the particular store I am referring to as there are only 2 parent spaces, and more than a dozen disabled badge holder ones. Yet because the parent ones are in between the two sets, they use those and leave all the other badge spaces empty.

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I find the title of this thread disabilist and the op should apologise

Egg and cress, if you silenc"disablist comments" then you can't challenge their thinking. I am the parent of a child with OCD and autism and a severely disabled mother. I'd rather the likes of the OP put their views out there, because in reality they exist, then they can be challenged.

If we silence them they just go underground and seeth.

I am on the side of the disabled big time and as much as I am offended by the OPs heading, it is a statement of their opinion.

Let them spout it, then let us correct them but to silence it wouldn't change their opinion. IMO of course.

As the old saying goes:

As much as I disagree with your opinion I wlil defend your right to express it.

Mitmoo you may find it hard to believe that disabled people park in p&c places to wind up parents, but I reckon that after this thread there'll definately be a few doing it. :o

Voltaire is famous for the following quotation: "I disagree strongly with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

He has a point IMO.

Right many scenarios could have happened OP, as others have pointed out and unless you sat there for a half hour or so and actually observed all this parking then you really should keep it shut.

Perhaps the car holds a child as well as a disabled person (as our car often does)

Perhaps there were no disabled spaces left when the car arrived so they parked there (again I have done this and before I even get into the shop I see someone pulling out of a disabled space, not going to stop with child, and blind dp just to move car!)

Or perhaps you actually need to take it up with the shop as well, very silly to have p&t space in the middle of isabled spaces.

Most of all stop being so precious about a little rain and what a baby can do in the 2 minutes it takes for you to put a trolley away while strapped into a car ( admittingly I took ds with me then lifted him out to put trolley back when he was a baby :) )

Kladdkaka I must just take me old ma out tomorrow for a bit of P&C wind up.

(Teasing) If I can't get to the disabled spots I drop her at the door and get parked in "normal" spots, then get her to wait at the door and collect her from their.

But tomorrow I might sprout M&B parking spot horns >

I agree! It's so momentarily irritating for us!

I am also glad that someone has FINALLY mentioned this.

Mitmoo: I did not say the op could not have their opinion: I think they should not have written the title like that. It is written in disabilist language. This is what they should apologise for

egg and cress they haven't used disablist language in the title they have attacked the disabled for what they perceive to be the disabled abuse of P&T parking spots.

I 1000000 percent disagree with them, the disabled need those spots far more than healthy mums and babies.

But to shout disablist language for the title "Disabled parking badges are for the designated places NOT where the hell you like" betlittles the real meaning of disablist language. It is their opinion, they're wrong but it is their opinion.

It's their opinion and their entitled to express it so I and others can give them a metaphorical online kick in

Let's not attack each other Mitmoo we are on the same side. I am sure you are probably right. It is just that I saw red mist when she implies that disabled people should know thier place and what the "hell" are they doing stepping out of it.

I am not attacking you egg I have had enough prejudice in RL to deal with but I do think that the tendency to scream and I haven't seen it from you on this site to hollar "disablist language" at every which way actually does a disservice to the disabled. The OP IMO hasn't used disablist language but has expressed a prejudicial view of disabled people. A subtle difference maybe but a differnce never the less.

We probably wont be able to educate them but I'd wager many lurkers and readers read the stories of disabled people and start to think about how hard it is for them.

So if some numpty starts a thread to attack the disabled which then rebounds on them perhap we shouldn't flame but welcome the opportunity to correct them if only for the rational lurkers, readers and contributers.

Perhaps I am just in pacifist mode tonight.

The fact of the matter is that the OP's title is totally incorrect. Blue badge users can use their badges wherever they like as long as they are not causing an obstuction and that is covered by law

I know quite a few shops where the Blue badge parking is mixed amoung the P&C parking and it would be very easy to park in the wrong space without realising.

I also know that it is entirely possible to draw up in a car park and find that all the BB spaces are taken so you need to park in a P&C space - meanwhile people leave and make it look like you have parked in a P&C space whilst BB space are empty. Car parks are like that - people come and go - who knew?

It is also bloody embarressing to read yet another whinging angry thread from a grown woman having a tantrum because someone has parked in her parking space. A parking space only provided because Supermarkets want to make money out of her. Then to watch as she proclaims about the difficulites involved in getting a couple of kids out of a car and into a shop without them melting.

I want them to get rid of the bloody things. People dont appreciate them. Like spoilt children they think they are a right and want more, more, more.

If you really want a nice big space go and contract a disabiling conditon and then see how a BB makes up for everything! We simply wouldnt be without Multiple Sclerosis in my house. Its a positive boon

Totally agree with voddie.

Agree voddie. Blue badge does = park where the hell you like. Except double yellows with the yellow lines off the curb, drop curbs, school entrance markings, etc to the other restrictions as well.

P&C spaces are a fad. A marketing ploy. A gimic. PFB spaces. Call them what you will. They are a free for all. No laws cover who can park in them.

I used to have a waterproof cover for the rear facing car seat for my dd1. I rarely used it after I discovered that dd1 didn't melt in the rain.

My mother is disabled and has a blue badge. They are not easy to get AFAIK.

My mother would swap with any non disabled parent of non disabled children if she could have her health restored. I wish the parents who begrudged the disabled people parking in non obstructive places could swap for just 1 day with someone who's mobility is bad enough to warrant a blue badge.

I'd happily walk from one end of the car park to the other in the rain with my DD who hates rain btw if it meant a disabled person could be closer to the shop.

While OP only seems to have a problem sometimes (when she is shopping), my mother lives with her mobility problems every minute of every hour of every day, every year. My mother has a reduced lifespan because of her illness and lives with a tremendous amount of pain.
Oh how she would jump for joy if her greatest annoyance about shopping was walking across the car park in the rain.
Unfortunately, my mother can barely walk, and that is in a huge amount of pain, let alone jump for joy, and she will never walk without being in alot of pain again. Those days are gone for my mother so forgive me if I park my mother in P&C parking spaces because they are closer to the store than BB spaces, or the BB spaces are all full.
My mother has shopping to do too.

Sorry Mitmoo had to put DD to bed. I like what you wrote and I think that it is correct she has shown prejudicial view of disabled people. I stand corrected by your lovely articulate way of putting things.

Also agree with others the title is wrong anyway and blue badge holders can park where the hell they like.

you do not need that space, need to be that close to the shop they do its that simple really

Still haven't had a bloody twiglet.

Blue badges entitle the holder to park where they like as long as they are not causing an obstruction or causing a danger. So on that note, slartybartfast, something can indeed be done about your friend if their parking means others could potentially be in danger. Perhaps a chat from a PSO might help?

But back to P&C spaces. Yes they are convenient, but mostly for the fact that when my dcs were small, there was room on each side of the car for the doors to be opened wide enough to get the car seats out, or small children lifted into/out of the car. I didn't care if the spaces were at the far end of the car park (I can walk) as long as there was room at the side of the car.

Maryz - I don't think a special PFB topic would be a good idea. Most of us would hide it, which would leave those in possession of a PFB a clear run to back each other up without challenge. PFBness NEEDS to be challenged to stop the foolishness.

Littlemiss How inconsiderate of you to take your mother out shopping, you do know all disabled people should be kept indoors at all times to prevent them from inconveniencing the able bodied don't you?

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Egg

Thread title is wrong as they cant park where they like ithas to be safe and not causing an obstruction.

OP writes but I don't like having to choose between leaving my baby locked in the car to return the trolley (especially if out of sight) and him getting totally soaked etc if I take him with me.

I know it seems like a radical, whacky and off beat idea that only a total genius could think of but there's a new invention called rain jackets/macs that would prevent you from being forced by the wicked disabled people to abandon your child to return the trolley or having them get sodden wet.

Blimey after 20 years of parenting and five kids I am now feeling really nervous about my next trip to the supermarket.
What if I dont get a P&C space
What if it rains?

Wont somebody please think of MY children!!!!!?????