To be irritated by people who say they can't lose weight?

[BeerSnake]

umm just eat less and get out more. Or am I being unreasonable?

'Journal of the Buttock Clenchingly Simplistic?'

TheFirstMrsDeVere

I have always been slim and I adore food and eat what I like. I think that this is because I was warned as a teenager never to diet. I think that diets cause weight problems. SGB puts it better than me.

I am not being smug. I am currently trying not to smoke. I suppose your advice to me would be 'don't smoke'. It is not that easy and I have lots of sympathy with people losing weight. Especially as it takes time to see the results. And it is easy to go backwards.

I think Arabella Weir's "The Real Me Is Thin" should be required reading for the OP and others who think it is that simple

AH ok hmc - thought I had received my first Mumsnet flaming

He he - sorry to disappoint!

I have always been thin. When I was a teenager I was very very thin. I didnt have an eating disorder I just didnt eat much.

But I thought I ate loads. I thought I ate a normal amount. When I look back, of course I didnt!

Most of us have no idea of how much we eat and what we eat. Ask someone who is overweight how much they eat and they will tell you its a normal amount. It doesnt mean they ar lying or delusional. They are just human.

why does it bother you

In general YANBU. In most cases it's as simple as eating less and moving more.
There is a small percentage of the population who may be unable to lose weight due to health reasons - medication, disability etc. But it IS a small percentage and it's used as an excuse.

People who say they eat healthily & exercise will still be eating too much (adding butter, oil, sugar etc to the cooking). Excess calories = weight gain, it's that simple.

Over-medicalisation of normal human conditions has exacerbated the problem - helped along by the diet, drug and medical (gastric band etc) industries.

Emotional eating as an excuse is a pile of tosh. I am an emotional eater, so I can empathise, but I keep it in check. I'm a size 12/14, but can easily gain 3 stone in a matter of months if I don't watch my diet. The 3 stone then takes 6 months to shift.
Thing is, food is nice and it's tempting. The only real solution is to watch your calorie intake on a weekly basis.
I'm sure MNers will say I'm being simplistic. But I love food - roast dinners, cakes, Indian takeaways, even McDonalds. I could happily eat 5000 calories a day, but I don't.

But Northernruth, "people who say they can't lose weight" could still fall into the category of "food addictions or who struggle with their weight (for various reasons)".

It so patronising when people say, "just eat less & exercise more" And yes, I am overweight and have lost 4 stone this year so far but I'm also included in the "struggle with their weight". I have a condition called lipodema which means my body produces too many fat cells which collect around the legs. It also contributes to lymphodema which is where your lymph vessells are damaged and you retain fluid which has to be manually pushed back into circulation. I am supposed to do limited type of exercise due to my conditions and it really FUCKS ME OFF when people make sweeping statements about weight....AGGGGRRR

These sorts of threads are designed to piss people off. For what it's worth, I am not overweight but still struggle with weird eating habits, bingeing and guilt/fucked-up-ness around food. Good genes are the sole reason I am not obese. It is very easy to pick on the overweight as, yes, eating too much obviously leads to weight gain, but it is blindingly obvious there are reasons behind overdoing anything be it food, alcohol or drugs. God forbid anybody close to you should ever have such issues OP because you clearly aren't equipped with much empathy.

YABU. It's not eating less that loses weight, it's eating crackers.

I say this as a lardy person, in many cases you are not being unreasonable.

However, some folks have medical and/or psychological issues, or other priorities, or they're just excusing themselves or... whatever.

As part of the wobbly race I wonder wether the visibility of our problem leads to more comment on our problem from others which leads to more self justification. Or maybe we bullshit others justify ourselves because we know our weakness/issues are apparent to everyone immediately and want to get in with our excuses early because we are sure we are being judged, or, or, or...

There's a whole bunch of potentially self destructive habits that are not as immediately obvious (as long as someone is smart enough to cover up), drink, drugs, smoking, violence they don't tend to be as in your face as a size 24 bum.

I'm guessing here, you know someone overweight, they've said "I can't lose weight." You smelt bullshit but didn't want to call them on it. I found it similarly irritating when size 14 folks whined about being fat until I got to know a very thin woman with major self worth issues that included keeping her teenage figure. Each to their own hangups.

(Mrs DV, in which section can I find your neighbour building thread? I was only about half way through it and I can't find it now. Don't tell me the end!)

Well done, FF. What an achievement.

Thank you JJ. I've been working with a hypnotherapist!

Why be irritated with people who have trouble with their weight? Even if you do think it is easy, their experience is different. You could get irritated with people who can't keep their house tidy (just put things away after you've used them), people who haven't got enough time ( stop watchingTV), and so on.

Thinking this way you will spend a lot of your life irritated. What do you find difficult? Just live and let live.

Yab slightly U.

But that is only because you dont know personally every overweight person on this planet!

Take me for example. I am a size 16. I put on weight when I stopped smoking, I put on more weight with each baby. (I was a size 10/12, but also quite tall. Size 14 would be good for me).

I am very active. I go on average on 2 mountain hikes per week. That is on average 2-3 hour cardiovascular up hill for each hike, then down. In addition I go to the gym, I go for spinning classes, and I do gardening for a hobby.
I have spent this summer digging, carrying bucket loads of gravel, and bucket loads of topsoil. I have spread this out, and made a large big lawn. Ie, the fine landscaping. I have been working on this since June.

Have I lost weight? No.
Do I EVER lose weight? No.
Do I stuff myself with cake and icecream? No.

Well, I allow myself one treat a week, and a few glasses of wine.

The bottom line is obviously you will gain weight if you consume more caleries than your body needs. But there are lots of reasons which trigger people to over eat and make losing weight difficult.

The same as there are lots of reasons which trigger people to under eat. Its a bit like telling an anorexic to just eat more. Not so simple.

Why be irritated with people who have trouble with their weight? Even if you do think it is easy, their experience is different. You could get irritated with people who can't keep their house tidy (just put things away after you've used them), people who haven't got enough time ( stop watchingTV), and so on.

By thinking this way you will spend a lot of your life irritated. Are there aspects of life which you find difficult? And do up you want people to be irritated with you when you are struggling or to support you? Just live and let live.

YANBU to find it irritating - I find people who make excuses for not losing weight very irritating.

I myself am a size 14/16 and at 5ft 4 that is overweight. I can lose weight - I am just very lazy about it and dont make excuses.

yabvu and your sweeping generalisation is ignorant.

Sorry double posted a different version . I find typing on touch screen difficult, please don't get irritated, its bad for your blood pressure

So. Worked for the BMJ for a bit, not quite sure that qualifies me to comment or not?

But.... Am currently overweight and known its because I am being crap.

So flame me.

So there you go, you are crap, why also be flamegrilled crap?!

Come to think of it, I have been hoisting up my jeans quite a bit lately. Perhaps I have not lost weight, but gained muscle.