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to have told MIL about (soon to be ex) H and I?

137 replies

ninja · 23/08/2011 16:37

H decided in Jan that he didn't want to sleep in the same room as me so I moved into the spare room and later onto a mattress on the floor in the box room.

At the end of Feb he decided that he didn't want to be accountable to anyone and certainly not me and that we should separate. By that time he was being so nasty to me (I couldn't say or do anything right) that I wasn't sorry but did suggest trying counselling.

I came back from caming with the kids with Easter and he'd put an offer in on a house so I think his intention was quite clear and since then he's demanded half the value of the house plus other things - but that's another story.

Basically his Mum lives in Ireland and I assumed that when he went over to see her with the kids in May that he would tell her - but he didn't (DD1 didn't know at that point so I could understand to some extent). He was not keen on me telling my parents but as I've had to borrow money off them I had to and of course they've been supportive.

We told DD1 (8) a couple of weeks before the end of term and while of course she's been upset, she's been so mature about it and tried to look on the bright side. I paid H the money from this house in the middle of July, for some reason he didn't complete for 3 weeks but the house is now his (even though he's still living here while he does some work on it).

He went to visit his Mum again last Thursday and took DD1 and DD2 (2) with him and as DD1 knew I assumed again that this time he would tell her, but when I spoke to DD1 she told me that she was finding it really hard keeping the secret Shock I am so Angry that he could put her in that position and Sad for her as she clearly wants to talk about it. I did think well it's his decision though.

Today when I phoned up to speak to the kids she asked me what was going on. She said she could tell that something was up and he'd admitted we weren't happy but not said anything else (well he had told her that he was sleeping in the front room Shock that he would lie like that, but...)

I said she should speak to him but she kept asking and I just couldn't lie so in the end I told her that we'd separated and he'd got a house. I also said that we were trying to be amicable for the kids, that we'd be close, he'd have them half of the time and that DD1 was being very positive and that we'd been getting on a lot better since (well that was a little white lie).

I do feel really bad, it wasn't my place to tell her but I couldn't keep lying. He'd actually invited her over to stay in October so I don't know what he was going to do - keep up the pretense and move in? Drive up to a different house and tell her then?

So I'm ready for you to tell me I should have minded my own business, interested to see if anyone else would have told..

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waterrat · 23/08/2011 23:10

Af is right. This man has no right to enter your home or your room.

ChaosTryingToGetOrganised · 23/08/2011 23:10

I was going to suggest calling the police if he tries YOUR bed too. Listen to AnyFucker - she is very wise.

It is YOUR house. He has a perfectly good house he can move into.

Stay strong. Good luck.

AnyFucker · 23/08/2011 23:11

he is attempting to mark his territory...why couldn't he settle the kids and go sleep at his own place...or on the sofa

if you cave for this one, I have no sympathy for you

baboos · 23/08/2011 23:12

You say you have moved on, but in reality this will only happen when he's moved on, as in moved on from YOUR house. I think you need to remind him who actually owns the house now, and tell him to go sleep in his own bed in his own house.

AnyFucker · 23/08/2011 23:12

is it ferry/plane times that necessitate the 3:30 am arrival ?

ChaosTryingToGetOrganised · 23/08/2011 23:14

If you call the police and explain that you two are separated and that you have bought him out of the house (ie. it is in your name only) and that he has a house of his own (in his name only) what do you think they will tell him?

You are not being unreasonable to sleep in YOUR bedroom in YOUR house. I agree with the previous posters about kicking him out tomorrow and changing the locks.

SheCutOffTheirTails · 23/08/2011 23:14

Jesus fucking Christ!

He is demanding that he be allowed to sleep in your bed, in your house??!!

Are you fucking kidding me?

The only way to have an amicable relationship with this bullying twat is to let him walk all over you.

Stop letting him treat you like shit.

Hasn't he even an ounce of decency?

To treat the mother of his children with such disrespect?

He is using your love for your children against you - he knows that however unreasonable and nasty he is, you will counterbalance it so your children don't have to face what a cunt he is.

I'm furious on your behalf.

Do NOT let him back into your home.

You owe this horrible bastard nothing.

You owe yourself having as little to do with him as possible

It is not good for your children to see you being treated like this.

ninja · 23/08/2011 23:14

No - I meant I wanted him to bring the kids back to the house tonight.

They're coming back from Ireland and took a ferry that arrived at midnight and a long car journey.

He's now said that I can have the room as long as he can have the double rom in the caravan in Wales. Tbh I was planning to share with DD2 anyway as I get up with her in the morning and that we she might cuddle and have stories

I can't believe he's been so arsey about this

digger that was my next text in my mind - must remember to move his PJs out

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DontGoCurly · 23/08/2011 23:15

I wouldn't give him advance warning that you are changing the locks. I would just wait till he goes out tomorrow and do it. He always thinks he's right do I wouldn't get into any verbal confrontation with him.
Keep your gunpowder dry.
With these volatile, arrogant pricks, you show them with actions not words.
Can't you just receive the kids at the door and say goodnight. Would he get violent or anything ?

EvenLessNarkyPuffin · 23/08/2011 23:17

I understand that you're trying to be uber reasonable for the sake of the children. So when he asked for half the value of your family home (out of the blue) to buy a house for himself you gave it to him. And you have organised beds and stuff for the children for this new house, so they can stay there comfortably.

All that means that your house is no longer his home. It's not his bedroom. It's not his spare bedroom. There's being reasonable and accepting that you can't make someone love you, and there's being treated like an unwanted visitor in what is now your home.

ninja · 23/08/2011 23:18

He'd cause a scene. It's been a while but he has thrown things before. It wouldn't be nice nd not something the kids would want to see. He knows that and as you say will use that against me. Just like when he argues in front of the kids so I have to agree with him

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AnyFucker · 23/08/2011 23:18

he has granted you your own bed in your own house ?

how very kind of him

why the fuck are you even having a dialogue with this cretin ? Confused

I would also let him take the dc's to wales on his own, or take them myself

I couldn't spend my holiday time in the close quarters of a caravan with such a fucking arsehole, tbh

ChaosTryingToGetOrganised · 23/08/2011 23:19

I agree with DOntGoCurly - don't tell him you're changing the locks. It sounds like you have a key to his new house? Just take his stuff there (not even all of it, but enough of it IYKWIM) and have the locks changed at your house. Be prepared to call the police if he gets nasty when he comes to your house and tries to get in.

SheCutOffTheirTails · 23/08/2011 23:21

He abuses you, and you plan to continue this abusive relationship despite the end of your marriage?

I agree with the suggestion to get in touch with Women's Aid.

"Just like when he argues in front of the kids so I have to agree with him"

Your children should never have to see that again. Do you think they don't know?

You can't have an amicable relationship with someone like this.

Lexilicious · 23/08/2011 23:21

ninja, are you also still dealing with the brother and the crazy ex-step-mother who wants your money/land? (I won't link to the thread) (Maybe you started a new update thread, I probably haven't kept track)

You seem to still be dealing with far too many unreasonable demands around you. Have you a friend who can come and help you deal with tonight's issue? Why oh why is he bringing DC back in the middle of the night though?!

Can you, , quickly put your phone on voice-recording mode if you think there is going to be some sort of face-off about bedrooms? I really hope you don't but you might need to be able to prove certain events in the future?

If you really want to keep control of your house, perhaps put your key on the inside of the lock, take your children at the threshold and quietly tell him to fuck the fuck off to the far side of fucksville where there's a nice allnight fuckery diner say 'bye bye now off you go to your house' to your ex.

AnyFucker · 23/08/2011 23:21

you shouldn't be going on holiday with him

you should be limiting the opportunities for him to abuse you in front of your children

the only way to do that is to detach from him completely

I am afraid you are very far from that

your naivity that this will all be over soon is quite astonishing

I am so sorry love, but you have a lot more pain awaitng you yet

get real...and get him away from you

a caravan ? You have to be crazy...

SheCutOffTheirTails · 23/08/2011 23:21

Also agree with DontGo - change the locks, but do not tell him first.

EvenLessNarkyPuffin · 23/08/2011 23:22

He'd cause a scene. It's been a while but he has thrown things before. It wouldn't be nice nd not something the kids would want to see. He knows that and as you say will use that against me. Just like when he argues in front of the kids so I have to agree with him

That explains all your behaviour. It is terribly sad. He has complete control over you. You sound like you've given up.

AnyFucker · 23/08/2011 23:22

< penny drops >

I thought I had a vague recollection of this user name

I am out

ninja · 23/08/2011 23:22

AF - he's just taken them to Ireland for a week and I took DD1 to London earlier in the summer. I'm not spending another week away from my 2 year old.

I know I agree that it's ridiculous for him to allow me to sleep there

I am going to suggest that he either doesn't come or only comes for part of the holiday so that he can get on with the house. I can't stop him from coming though and DD1 is really excited about the holiday.

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diggingintheribs · 23/08/2011 23:22

Would womensaid be able to advise on a strategy for Ninja to use when she changes the locks and kicks him out? Is there a risk he could get violent? I agree a call to the police is the only way if he gets belligerent.

And you must kick him out. This is so unhealthy for the kids - i agree that you shouldn't throw rocks at him but at the same time your behaviour is a mirror for the kids. it sounds like DD1 is doing a lot of mothering to your DH and that isn't right.

Please think about how you would want your daughters to behave if they were in your position and mirror that!

ninja · 23/08/2011 23:26

OK - he's now asked me to leave out some bedding and towels so he can drop the kids off and go home (he has bedding and towels - I packed them up for him before ....)

Victory or attempted guilt trip?

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diggingintheribs · 23/08/2011 23:26

attempted guilt trip but just go with it - and change the locks tomorrow as this means he has officially moved out

ninja · 23/08/2011 23:27

Imagine what he'll be telling the kids now how mummy won't let him come home

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Ilikepinkwine · 23/08/2011 23:30

Yanbu, you are quite possibly the most reasonable person I have ever come across. If anything you are too reasonable. You have been more than generous to your ex but it is time to stop.

Had you gone through normal channels when he chose to end your relationship and get another house, you may well have been entitled to more than half. It is time to put your foot down, no matter how much you want to protect your kids from a scene. Think about their future relationships and show them how to be strong and assertive. You deserve your own space where you can relax and know he won't just come and go as he pleases.

Good luck, you deserve better. x