to get mad at people using parent and child parking without a child?

[Maamaa]

There I was sitting in Tesco's carpark waiting for my little girl to wake up so I could shop and I must have watched 3 or 4 cars in the space of 10 mins use the spaces for parent and child even though they had none! One woman had two dogs but I suspect that that doesn't count! When I went in the store I told the lady on customer services but she didn't seem very interested and just said she'd tell " one of the lads to have a look". I was so mad! Actually the worst one was a guy who had 2 child seats in the car and no kids! Should know better! Ok , rant over!

How ever did we manage before such things? With twins too! I think they are simply a courtesy and would have no problem with elderly folk (disabled or not) using them. My Dad shopped at Asda til he was 101 (drove himself there til 98!) and had no disabled badge, but could have done with parking near the doors as getting round the shop was as much as he could manage. Fit young women can cope with a walk.

Not again!

There really is no need for it. My mum didnt have a fucking car when we were children. We actually had to get a bus, YES A BUS to the shops, walk from the bus stop to the shop, do the shopping and help mum carry the bags back on the bus home. When we were little it wnet in the rack under the push chair.

When did people get so lazy and incapable of dealing with daily life that they cannot walk a few 10's of metres to a fucking shop entrance from the car park? It's beggars belief.

I have to walk to bloody Tesco dragging the bloody old lady shopping trolly and push the pram. Then load dd into a supermarket trolley the load the pram in, and my trolly. The shop pay load unload and unfold pram and insert daughter and then leave. To leave I have to use the crossing by the P&C spaces. At which not one bastard stops. You come out your special people fucking special spaces granted to you because you grew a person in your uterus. I stand their in the fucking rain while you pretend you haven't seen me, one hand on the wheel the other shoving a vicount biscuit in your gob. Then if the roads clear or a nice disabled driver stops at the crossing to let me go I get to lug the whole bloody lot home.

You lot and your swanky spaces, your all a big bunch of bastards all of you! Except getorf who would stop as she wouldn't want to damage her car hitting me

I hate you all......arseholes.

"If a store decides to create the spaces then the least they can do is ensure that the parking restrictions are observed."

You do realise that the store would do away with the spaces, before they employ people to patrol and monitor the spaces, don't you...? It simply would not be worth it for them; they're a courtesy.

Just be grateful the spaces exist in the first place - go to the supermarket assuming there won't be any, and if there are, bonus!!

We've been without our car for the last three months, having emigrated and are walking everywhere. In winter. I really have zero sympathy for people who can't manage to either park in a regular spot - or if they really, really need all the extra space, go to the back of the car park where no-one else is parked and walk the whole 3 minutes across the forecourt! You never know, your waistline might thank you for it.

If they put them at the back of the carpark, they could make them wider and no-one would want them.

Works a treat at our mall. They are way down the back of the carpark with a clear path to the door. But because people might have to walk an extra 50 metres no-one else wants them.

Suits me fine, as I drive an urban assault vehicle and they give me plenty of room.

Yanbu - some people are so rude - with regards to spaces and on here!

I personally would prefer a parent and child checkout queue. One without all the sweets and toffees lining my escape.

Nice to have, hardly necessary. People who stress over non parents using them are often those who have the whole "but I'm ENTITLED to" thing going on. Not saying you do OP, but really - so you have to walk a bit further, if you can then I can't see the problem. The rest of the population generally don't think our kids are as special as we do

I'm not sure some people have read all the thread. Yes it's fine to be annoyed at a lack of courtesy from fellow drivers - but you simply cannot state p&c spaces are the same as those for the disabled. And to say a prison sentence is a good idea for misuse is fucking stolid as is saying blue badge holders shouldn't use pc spaces if disabled bays aren't free.

They aren't for pregnant people either, but the people who argue their importance often think that it's ok for pregnant people to use them ..... I wonder why?

If someone pulled into a pc space with a passenger with a full leg cast, so they could use the space to get out easier (after all it's not a disability as it's temporary) would some of you honestly think they should be reported?

Stolid = stupid

I'm a bit confused by all the people saying, I used to walk, struggle on the bus, never had a car etc. It's completely irrelevant and misses the point. The fact is that a lot of people do have cars now, do drive to the shops and these spaces are to make life easier for these people, and of course to encourage them to use Tesco/Asda etc. over other stores, therefore why should an able bodied person perfectly capable of walking a distance choose to use the p&c spaces? They are the lazy ones, not the people with young kids who legitimately want to use these spaces

I live in hope that one day I will drive into the local supermarket and find a big sign saying "We have taken the P&C spaces away because you can't play with them properly. They will be returned when you learn to play nicely".

Hahaha... Kingfupanda, exactly.

Some people are just ridiculously lazy and entitled. I'd much rather see extra spaces being made available for the elderly and disabled. Unless it's Christmas it's always possible to find a parking space well away from the main doors, our local Sainsbury has people queuing up to get as close to the doors as possible, whilst there are so many spaces towards the end of the car park. No problem to park larger vehicles nor to get any amount of buggies and children out of the car, so why don't people park there instead of vying for the spaces they don't really need?

I don't particularly like them myself. I've a mind to park across two of them to make my point twice as valid. :)

My father always used to drop mum at the door then park as far away from the door as he could, so that no one would park next to him and scratch his car. That didn't work though as the car park was on a bit of a slope and someone left a trolley which slid towards his car, gathering speed as it went, and left quite a large dent .

at Kungfu. Would be happy for P&C spaces to go altogether. At my local quite small Tesco, the P&C spaces are nearer than the disabled ones, which I cannot understand.

Lyingwitch - I love it when I get upgraded to King-fupannda. It makes me feel all important!

Although I did walk past a Chinese restaurant yesterday called Big Fat Panda which I felt was aimed at me somehow....

Exit - the big Tescos near where I stay when I work in London has all the P&C spaces right by the entrance and the disabled spaces out in the ordinary parking bays. I don't get it.

they do make life easy. Honestly, life is so easy in this country when you own a car and a there is supermarket that people have become lazy sissies who assume babies melt in the rain and carparks are acres of death waiting for children.
Get a grip. If you are not disabled you dont need a special place and if you do find one, sit and be thankful. If you dont, you still have an easy life with a car and a spermarket with all your food wants laid out.

How does just having kids with you make you less than able bodied?

As Riven says, Get A Grip.

Having kids is a PITA but it isn't a disability.

Yes but by the same argument these spaces will breed lazy children who think they are entitled to special benefits.

And no it's not irrelevant stating that people walk or have different struggles. Your car is already a luxury and convenience, how much more to you want? A conveyor belt into the store to prevent you dc's feet having to be sullied by the filthy ground?

Those spaces cause laziness and attitude, if they ceased to exist tomorrow than no one would complain about who can and who can't use them.

I use the spaces where possible as have 3 dc in the big stage 1 car seats and the extra space to open the doors is a godsend. I wouldn't care if the spaces were in the furthest corner of the car park.
If one isn't available, I'll try and find a space at the end of a row to get that extra door space.

I don't see it as my right to those spaces and I don't choose where I shop on the basis of car parking ( although I do on the number of twin seat trollys though!).

But, it really, really, irritates me when a car parks in a p&c space, with small dc in car seats, and then only 1 of the adults gets out and goes into the store, leaving dc and other adult in the car. They don't get the dc in and out of the car so don't need the wider bays and could easily wait in the pick up bay/regular paking bay.

Yes they are a privelege and not a right but I just don't understand the mentality of people parking in the spaces who have no children unless they are elderly and find it a struggle to walk but do not have a blue badge.

However, I don't think they are the people who would park in these spaces, it is usually people who are perfectly able but selfish and inconsiderate.

Riven - if I remember correctly from the zombie escape plan thread, you have two disabled badges.

Would you consider joining AitchGee's protest against P&C spaces and taking your badges along in her car when she parks across two P&C spaces.

You can wait until someone comes over, bristling with indignation, and then stick both your badges on the car with a big grin.

hehehehe, good plan

The best thing about P&T spaces is being able to fully open your door without hitting the car parked next to you so you can get your child in and out.
I wish supermarkets would put them further away from the entrance though.

The best thing about P&T spaces is being able to nip into the shop and park nearby :)

as i say to anyone who moans, having a kid doesnt make you disabled! stop being pathetic and get on with it :)