Health Tourism - woman has 5 babies on the NHS

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AIBU to think that this woman is taking the bloody piss?

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3673011/Nigerian-mum-Bimbo-Ayelabola-flew-into-Britain-and-had-quins-on-the-NHS.html

I very much doubt she will be sent back. Who is paying her legal fees is what I would like to know?

Are we a soft touch or just a lovely compassionate country with enough resources for all?

Or perhaps as cat was looking for very personal examples and dissed my example of a close relative being on the front line - contact the hospital, offer to help this lady out. Perhaps she can stay with you?

Someone posted a link to the Nigerian Governments website on here, and they are not so kind. They say that if you are not a Nigerian Citizen and you fall ill there, you or your family have to pay, how kind is that. Why are the UK such mugs

My mum is Armenian from Cyprus and came here 45 years ago, and yes she worked all her life and payed taxes and now is retired, so we are not typical white British

Not read whole thread, but the last page or so is shockingly unpleasant and tabloid-driven. The red tops (when they're not hacking the phone messages of murdered schoolgirls) pick up on INCREDIBLY unusual cases like this, and section of the British public run with it. Sad and stupid IMO.

I'd rather be taken for a mug occasionally and know that my country treats immigrants well, than feel confident that nobody is scamming the system but know that my country treats immigrants badly.

And yes, I'd happily pay more tax.

Fell ill in the Far East a couple of months ago. Had insurance (although the chap behind me who had hurt his leg didnt). Hospital literally manhandled this chap out of the hospital. He said he didnt have any money (he was English). They said go and get a credit card of a relative otherwise he was on his own. Silly twit for going abroad without any medical insurance. Someone correct me - I heard the figure of 25% of people going abroad without any insurance. Is that right?

Damm - the Treasury awaits your cheque!

Go on Damn contact the treasury. There is treating someone who falls ill whilst on holiday, and someone who deliberately comes here to use and abuse the health system. Why don't you interview people in the front line and get the FACTS, instead of sitting there with your rose tinted spectacles. We as a country are in DEBT don't you know, we cannot keep robbing Peter to pay Paul.

I do not know the stats, but this is not a drop in the ocean, this means that services and benefits to UK Citizens who really need them will be cut. I am trying to get a Statement for SN for my ASD daughter and its like getting blood out of a stone, we are really fighting hard, as they have made cuts to that area.

I'd happily give it to them. But then I regard other human beings as people worthy of support and kindness, unless they've given me a damned good reason to withdraw it. Must be sad to go through life regarding other people as nothing more than schemers and scammers.

Services and benefits are being cut to pay for our big deficit, we cannot afford to be throwing money about.

Wouldn't waste your breath damnyou. I have left this thread once because of how deeply unpleasant and uneducated the views on here are. Find it morbidly fascinating though and struggling to stay away. I honestly didn't think these sorts of views were really widely held but saddened to find out they are.

Well when you are struggling to get services that you need as government are making cuts its hard to think about anything else. And yes Damn you have got your rose tinted glasses firmly on. I don't like people that take advantage it means that others loose out.

Here's a FACT for you, piglet:

'Responding to the suggestion on the website of the British National Party (BNP) that the Royal College of Midwives blames immigration for the pressures facing NHS maternity services, RCM General Secretary Professor Cathy Warwick said:

?Let me spell it out simply and clearly. The Royal College of Midwives rejects absolutely the BNP?s assertion that immigration is a problem. It is not. This country has always been a country of immigration and the people who have come to this country over centuries have contributed to its success.

?The BNP on their website refer to maternity care, so let me take that example. A great many midwives were themselves born outside the UK, and without them NHS maternity care would, genuinely, be on its knees. Men and women have come to the UK from around the world to work in our health service, to provide care to the people of this country. Doesn?t their work illustrate the positive contribution that immigrants make? They are an asset to this country, and not a burden.

?On the issue of the demands currently facing NHS maternity services, the number of births in England is indeed rising, and rising fast. The total is, in fact, up a fifth since 2001. Indeed, there were more births in England last year than at any time since the early 1970s. To suggest however that it is immigration that is the main driver behind the strain on our service is simplistic in the extreme.

?We have seen an almost 50 percent rise in the fertility rate for women aged 40 or over, for example, and these women place more demands on the service than younger women. Every year, the amount of medical intervention in maternity care increases and the number of babies delivered by caesarean section rises, both of which place extra demands on those providing maternity care. The welcome growth in the level of choice that all women can exercise over their care also, inevitably, demands more of maternity services.

?The growing complexity and quality of maternity care are therefore the main reasons why pressures on the service are growing. Thankfully, all mainstream parties recognise this and there is cross-party support for more resources for maternity care to deliver the first-class service we all want. That is the approach that responsible political parties should be taking, not scapegoating foreign-born mothers for a failure to invest in more midwives and better facilities and choice for all women.

www.rcm.org.uk/college/about/media-centre/press-releases/copyof-rcm-responds-to-bnp-on-maternity-services-and-immigration/

Was told I would have to wait 2 years for speech assistance for my DS. Paid for a newly retired speech teacher to come and assist. And yes - very annoyed that I had to pay twice.

Sorry catgirl why dont you look after the lady with 5 children then if you are so kind. Its FACT not being unkind. You have to understand that not everyone will share your views we are not a collective.

Brilliant to see some actual facts on here. Thank you damnyou

catgirl - I know, it's shocking isn't it. What's happened to MN? A thread like this would have been laughed off the site a couple of years ago.

My disabled daughter's club and organisation is closing through funding cuts, if anyone has cheques to spare i could name many people who need them, as others have said, we cannot afford to try to solve the worlds problems, not when people are dying here, through the NHS not funding treatments.

Those that travel around the world who are UK born to access treatment not available here, have to raise the cash themselves to do so, why should it be different the other way round?

This is not a racist issue.

I am fairly new on here and am wondering if I am on the wrong site as this really wasn't what I expected to find. Really disturbing.

I am not talking about immigration Damn my mum was an immigrant and my Armenian friend is an immigrant who came here on the back of a lorry and they own their own house and they contribute to society. WE are talking about people who come here specifically, whether its from the US, Canada, Nigeria whereever just to use the NHS, its a National health Service, not an International one.

Are we uneducated Cat because we dont follow your views? Surely you cannot think that the system we have works well. Or maybe you think that if everyone over a certain income (not what you earn of course) pay more than that would solve the problem.

As I said before. You are most welcome to personally get involved in these cases. I am sure the Nigerian lady in question would welcome your input and financial assistance. She is getting it from the rest of us.

Don't make this a BNP/Race issue we are talking about people who come here sepcifically to use the NHS who are not entitled to it.

'Agree about the mismanagement, we need to sort this out. However that doesnt mean we should address all the other issues as well. It doesnt mean that anyone who fancies coming to our country with ANY health issue is welcome, the more complex the better.'

You are implying that the NHS is swamped with health tourists. Most bad outcomes in maternity are the result of units being overrun by British born mothers. They are overrun because they are not adequate for even the expected number of patients at the best of times. This is bad management. Horrible experiences and tragic outcomes would continue even if every woman entering Britain was subjected to an ultrasound and returned if found to be pregnant.

(Plus, the Nigerian woman had no idea when she arrived that she was carrying quins, no idea she would have a complex pregnancy/delivery.)

Yes Cat I am educated to MSc level thanks

Why disturbing?

This lady is from Nigeria but that is irrelevant. She is stealing from all of us because she can.