to not want to help someone to live after my death?

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I am on the organ donor register. I am willing to donate all my organs to those who may need them in the event of my untimely death.

However, if the new system of presumed consent is brought in, I am opting out. I can't explain why I feel like I do about this. Am I being unreasonable?

I agree that registered donor rates are too low.

I was registered anyway, but I'm sure I ticked a box when I applied for my driving licence too. If not I really need to have more interesting dreams...

I'm still not sure I'm happy with my body being owned by the state to do with what they will after I'm dead!

'Presumed consent' just doesn't sit well. I can't think of any other area where consent is presumed.

This point is just...strange.

I can see your point to an extent,I'm also on the organ donor list,and am strongly against presumed consent,but I'm not going to punish someone who is in desparate need of an organ, and who has nothing to do with this legislation,by opting out when I do want my organs to be used.

Does the final say still go to next of kin whether or not you carry a donor card?

Erm. So you want to donate your organs, but not if the system sets up to donate unless you don't want to?

I don't get it. Those who don't want to donate for whatever reason, would simply opt out, surely?

So under the new system, I assume that you would opt out, and would also refuse an organ if you ever needed one?

I am completely anti the presumed consent scenario as well

VelvetSnow presumed consent means it's presumed that we will all go on the organ donor register unless we actively opt out (before death, obviously). IIRC, at parent the doctors have to ask the relatives even if the deceased is on the register.

For the record, if any of you are my relatives and say no to me donating organs when I'm brain dead I will cone back and haunt the bejeesus out of you

Not everyone who doesn't want to opt out,will get around to it,or can,in the case of those who are unable to advocate for themselves ,can.

There are other ways of protesting,please don't choose this method when you do want your organs to be used.

I have never felt smug about being on the organ donor register!

I feel very uncomfortable with the idea that I have my organs taken from me in the event of my death rather than given by me.

My DH agrees with presumed consent, I am surprised by how many on here do tbh.

If you are prepared to accept another person's organ/s in order for you or yours to potentially survive, then you should be prepared to donate. YABVVU.

Sorry that should say at present

Yabu, it will be great if the new system is implemented. If the new system is implemented & you opt out...will you refuse an organ if you needed it?

I don't agree with that either,Beansmum. I want my organs to go to the person in greatest need of them,I don't give a toss,in life of course,if they're on the list or not,so long as they can make use of them.

Once you have a child waiting for an organ, your pov changes very quickly. I know that is an emotive thing to say but presumed consent is a fantastic idea that has taken ages to get going here. Please do not put it in jeopardy.

YABU on the basis that you are dontating your organs to save a life, not to prove some administrative point. You wont give a monkeys when you are gone but someone out there will.

It'll be great? It'll be bodysnatching.People are not property,and should never become so,even in death.

There are other ways of increasing organ donation.I found a link before that told how Spain increased the number of donors without resorting to presumed consent.I'll have a look for it.

But, well, at the risk of totally missing the point - you'll be dead. You won't need them. They can either rot in the ground with the rest of you, or give someone else a chance of life / better life.

(I understand that for people who believe in actual bodily resurrection, or have other beliefs etc etc, they don't see it that way.)

YABU.

What does it matter? You are already on the register. What's the issue? I don't get it.

I also don't like the presumed consent idea - manly because I've always held that your body is the only thing that truly belongs to you. If I choose to give that as a gift after my death (or before in the case of blood etc) the decision still lies with me or my DH who would respect my decisions. Presumed consent assumes your body belongs to the state to do with as it likes unless you decide you don't want it to. I really hate that idea.

I wouldn't opt out, but I'd be annoyed by it greatly and it would no longer be organ donation, but organ harvesting. Big, big moral difference.

I have a relative who's in need of an organ,she's against presumed consent,in spite of her predicament.

In a discussion on the radio they said people may opt out because it takes away your sense of making an altruistic gesture if it's a compulsory thing. I think this is quite true, but I wouldn't opt out of it.

Maybe it's because you feel forced into it instead of it being a 'noble' choice you've made to help others.

YABCompletelyU.

You've already agreed to organ donation and signed up to the register? You'll be dead. You won't need your organs. Why remove your consent just because you feel iffy about the legislation?

I don't care if I don't need them. It's not acceptable for people to become nothing but spare parts imho.I believe in respect for the dead,and in autonomy,even in death,in bodily integrity,that I own my body even after I die,and no one should have the right to help themselves to it.
It's no better than bodysnatching imho,and I am an atheist who is on the donor list.

I'll be dead and therefore will not care.

YABU but I can see your point. However, in the big picture, you wanted to help someone with your organs after you no longer needed them - just because the state thinks it's a jolly good idea too, why do you no longer want to help someone? It's a bit daft, isn't it?

I think and opt-out system is a much better idea because it makes people do something about it if they don't agree with it. Too many people on the organ transplant list who are dying because there are too few donors - so yes, go for the opt-out system and those who don't like it CAN CHOOSE to opt out, that's kind of the point.