To be fed up of people saying drug addicts should abort?

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I realise I will probably get flamed for posting this here.

In the past 12 hours I have seen a comment from someone on here saying drug addicts should abort and then logged into Facebook just there to find another comment from someone saying ".I would only hope that disgusting junkies/alcoholics/abusers and the like abort when they fall pregnant."

My Mother was a drug addict and this really makes me upset every time I see comments like this. They are basically saying me and my Brother should have been aborted. :(

I know I am probably being unreasonable about this, but it really does upset me and I think some people should think before posting comments like that.

GetOrf Well I disagree.
Tho a contraceptive implant until they can prove they are clean is a good idea.

Yekke I believe that abortion can be right in some cases if right for the individual.

I don't agree with people who have umpteen abortions as contraception and I don't agree with late abortion.

BloodyMary I also think that would be a good idea.

TrillianAstra Very true, there is nothing worse tnan children being damaged in the care system.

Foolish to suggest addicts could get treatment and support, I suppose? Easier to go for the stalinist model :'Person, problem. No person, no problem.' Addiction is an illness, not a lifestyle. The original use may be a choice, not the addiction. Are all sick/disabled people to be stopped from having kids, then?

My DD has my full support, and has had treatment 3 times.
She just keeps going back to heroin.

I'm not saying a drug addict should abort but they are being stupid getting pregnant in the 1st place and expecting the NHS to provide care for them and their baby who will be born and addict.

Thanks. :) So yours is a pretty standard middle of the road pro-choice viewpoint which doesn't colour the issue here then I guess.

The argument I'd put to you (apart from saying get off Facebook!) is that not all children go on to lead happy lives. Some, perhaps more than the "average" child, go on to a life in a children's home/with foster carers etc and feel so "different" and at odds with the world that it affects their happiness and mental wellbeing into adulthood.

My personal view is that long-term contraception should be absolutely enforced upon addicts as an absolute minimum. I have no idea what it's like but from what I hear I'd never wish the agonies of withdrawal or the heartache of "not belonging" upon any baby or child. If that mean that the rights of adult addicts are curtailed or ended, that's their lookout. Addiction is a choice, pregnancy shouldn't be.

Alice I think the system should be much harder on drug addicts.
IE, I think that although it is a criminal offence to take drugs, I think that they should be given jail sentences in a prison with rehab support where they are actually weaned off the drugs.

I think drug addict moms are selfish to get pregnant a d put there baby through all this pain but as a druggie I guess they are thinking of themselves and not the life on there baby

True, heroin addicts are very self absorbed.

Yekke I'm only on FB as I have some friends and family I can't really contact otherwise. :(

And I do agree that some children don't grow up happy lives and end up in care (this is what happened to my Mother). But this can happen with parents who are not addicts as well.

And I also agree with long term contraception but once a child is concieved I think they should be given support or choices of adoption instead of being convinced to abort.

But thats costing us the tax payer mew they got themselves in thus mess not us or society them. No one forced heroin down them they took it

Trina I also agree with you. My Mother is very much still like that to this day.

Altinkum I suppose you are right, but surely there must be a way to help them give up in a setting where there are no drugs around?

The girl living in the family of junkies down the road from where I grew up where removed and taken into care when she was 10. Until then she was neglected, roaming the great outdoors in filthy clothes, had received no schooling, grew up with empty bear cans and parties, and parents, aunts and uncles off their heads every day. Her older sister ended up just like her parents, and it still zombying around town. She was not taken into care.

OP, I suspect you take the opinions personally because you did not actually have to grow up with junkhead parents. I think possibly somebody who were "raised" by their drug addicted parents may have a different viewpoint.

My brother ruined our family with his drug taking, he's not a parent thank god but he's a selfish sod. He gets clean then gets onto drugs again, I've no sympathy with him or anyone else like it, he had a wonderful childhood he's no one to blame but himself

a setting where there are no drugs around?

There is.....the Moon

Forces of nature are strong.
Mums who give birth to their kids whilst addicted are physically capable to deliver that baby, but often unable to provide what the new born needs in order to grow into a capable member of society.

The dilema therefore is not in - should they abort but how to asses if they are capable to look after their child.

And who is going to support that child and in case there is damage worst than what medicine can revert and deal with what to do to minimalise those.

Trinaandthewhales Totally agree with the above.

Nobody forced it down her.

Crazy I the moon comment actually made me laugh. :)

"But thats costing us the tax payer mew they got themselves in thus mess not us or society them. No one forced heroin down them they took it"

True, but so is their methadone plans.

I've an addict brother altinkum the amount of money he's cost the government and NHS is beyond me, he's not worked in 10years because of his addiction, he's been in and out of rehab that costs thousands. He's stolen from my parents and friends to feed this addiction.

I never realised there were so many people on here who had drug addict family. :(

It's sad as it really shows how common it is nowadays.