to feel absolutely disgusted by what just happened on the bus?

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On the bus with DH, toddler DD (19 months) in pushchair and newborn DS (17 days) in sling. Travelling through bog standard, middle class suburbia.

As we board, bus driver snaps that we'll either have to fold the pushchair or get off now. As we're fumbling to fold the pushchair whilst clinging onto a tired and wailing DD, other passangers are elbowing past and paying no attention to DS whom I'm trying to protect, and the bus driver is shouting at me to hurry up.

Nobody at all offers DH or DD a seat, and the only person to offer me one is a woman of at least 70.

Having an ashamed-to-be-British moment.

No it's not the answer mrsdonkey but nor is reporting someone for being a bit irritated at the OP for holding the bus up.

Why is it ok to give understanding to the OP for being stressed but not the driver?

"To the people saying he should be reported for 'snapping'...have you ever thought that he might have a newborn baby at home too?
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I'd be more inclined to think he didn't snap at her.

"Why is it ok to give understanding to the OP for being stressed but not the driver?"

The op is just having abit of a moan, the driver isnt reading mumsnet.

Blimey. I am always genuinely shocked at the incompetence some people seem to descend to when they become parents. Can't get them to school on time, can't get them ready without help blah blah. FGS two adults on a bus with two children and you couldn't think to fold the flipping buggy before getting on?
Maybe I am superwoman and I just haven't realised.

The op is just having abit of a moan, the driver isnt reading mumsnet.

But people are actually encouraging the OP to contact the driver's employer and report him ffs.

That is way OTT in my opinion.

Next they'll be suggesting she sues for hurt feelings

Poor op.

You were being a bit precious but don't really deserve a mauling.

Public transport and simple manners and kindness rarely combine.

I'm more inclined to think the driver was simply a miserable old bleeder.

Best to always assume there is no room and be waiting with the buggy folded

I actually think the OP got mostly nice responces and even the YABU are very polite I assumed that was because she was well known. Most people would get ripped to shreds for being entitled.

Already been mentioned on the thread, but when did it become ok for people not to fold buggies when getting on the bus?

When I was kid (not that long ago!), it was rare to have people get on buses without folding the buggy, is it because some many people now days insist on having those stupid bugaboo style pushchairs?

I would never expect to give up my seat for a toddler, I'd expect the toddler to sit on parents lap.

buublecoral - no one has to help. No-one has to hold doors open for others, or say thankyou, or generally give a shit about anyone other than themselves. They could have helped by not pushing and letting a little kid sit down.

But people often have their own reasons for feeling tired and just wanting to get on the bus and sit down. I honestly don't see why a child should get to sit down before an adult who could have been up in the night with their own child before getting up early to get to work. There are plenty of reasons to want a seat on the bus, i don't think being a parent or a small child trumps every other reason that might not be quite so obvious on the outside.

Maybe they thought the OP was rude for not moving out of the way to fold her buggy to let others past? After all, she should have had it folded ready for the bus arriving really.

Parent did not have a seat for toddler to sit on lap

entitled?

Ivortheengine8 - You should ask someone to give up their seat. I did it on behalf of a heavily pregnant woman and the man glared, but he still stood up. Shame them!

Yes, I am saying report the driver. He is in the public service, and not allowed to be rude to anyone, or shout.

Nor should he tolerate it from the public. He is also able to complain if a member of the public is rude to him, which is why most buses have cameras these days.

bubble - fair point, but for there to be a whole bus full of people who have such an excuse - I'm not sure that's believable

YANBU. Give the OP a break you evil people.
a 17day old baby + a toddler + lack of sleep + busy bus = reciepe for disaster.

I never ever get the bus because i drive, however when my car broke down the other week i had to get the bus for the first time in 5 years. I was GOBSMACKED i tell you at how bloody rude bus drivers & other passengers can be! I had to also fold my buggy and negotiate putting dd 17 months on the bus - not one person moved to help me. i was schocked at how rude people can be.

Telling the op not to go out? seriously.. get a fucking grip!

Hes well within is right to ask you to fold it but there is no need to be rude. Im so glad mine are out of their prams now as i hated using the bus with them.

Our drivers are notorious for being nasty. I had a stand up argument in the middle of the bus with one a couple of weeks ago as i asked for a new ticket which is valid on my journey and i have used previously. Anyway i got chucked off the bus mid journey as he argued with me for the whole time i was on the bus. I have since had an apology and compo.

I would always remove my toddler from a stroller and fold for a newborn.

To expect a seat for an adult with a 19 month old is a bit much. Yes.

perhaps the bus driver couldn't understand why 2 grown ups couldn't manage?

I give up. Am in a bad mood now.

Abusive yes mrsdonkey...rude and I'm sure they'd quite rightly be told to grow a thicker skin.

Driver to Boss: "Ere, can you go through hours of CCTV and send the police to bang on the door of Mrs Goggins? She snapped at me when I said good morning"

Boss to Driver: "I'll get someone onto it straight away!"