to ask if you agree with the teacher's strike upcoming

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i am on the fence about it, due to not understanding pensions.

Ah, sorry, what do I do? I advise companies on online PR and social media strategies. I have been self employed for 10 years.
What I do is not rocket science - I reckon you could suss it out with 18 months of training - it pays okay and I enjoy it.

Oh great. School has just announved an extra insed day for next friday. A weeks fucking notice.

They can't do that, Riven - kick off, I would. Complain to the LEA.

I wouldn't dare to presume to tell you how easy your job is, mdowdall, because I have no idea. Do you get where this is going?

our school did that just after they became an academy - tuesday for the following friday - eight working days - not the LEAs problem of course

mdowdall - I ask again; what do you do that is so bloody brilliant that you think a goon can teach GCSE or A level; or the goon that can keep control of 30x16 year olds whose main reason for getting up in the morning is to cause the most disruption possible; or the goon who will listen to a heartbreaking tale from a child and then have to go and teach a group of kids as if nothing in the world is wrong and then tell me that my contribution to my pension that I was promised would end in an amount that I could afford food with after suffering with this shit doing a job/vocation that I love would result in my suffering working for longer and for less money whilst paying more from my average salary is something I should put up with

I'd like to point out that I meant it was literally not rocket science.

It is low-paying. It starts off quite reasonable, but other professions rapidly outstrip us. My son is two years out of university and earns more than me.

As the main wage salary in a family, it is not great.

Talkinpeace - Feenie is right, teachers do cpd, they set targets each year - usually 3, which have to be very specific and measurable. When reviewed it must be shown they've been met and pay can be frozen. Increments are only given for the first few years and then must be applied for with proof of cpd, good practise, lesson obs etc. You also hit a glass ceiling before you are 40 and then cannot earn any more until you retire (about 30 more years!) unless you want to move towards headship.

Its not even on their website. This extra one will be the 6th. So far its handwritten in dds home-school diary. Ffs

wage or salary, not both, obviously.

Teachers salaries are definitely well above average!!! You couldn't pay me enough to do the job though.

If your pension is less tha. £110 a week crickeyballs, you will get pension tax credit to make up tne amount. Plus housing benegit and council tax benegit. Amd WFA etc. You wont starve.

They are NOT above average for those similarly qualified.

So there you go then, the bullets you wanted are bitten. Now will you be 'more relaxed' about the profession, as promised?

Nah, thought not. Carry on making sweeping generalisations about something you evidently know nothing about then. I'm off to bed

So strike then, go for it.

Why not??

cricketballs - let me get this straight - you are saying you struggle to afford food on your teacher's wage?

It depends what you're comparing with. Are you looking at all jobs, or professional jobs requiring a degree and postgraduate qualification?

"Teachers salaries are definitely well above average"

so a 'highly qualified professional' should have to rely on tax credits to fund their retirement after paying into a fund with a large percentage of their salary? Sounds fair .

My SIL is a teacher, she is the main earner in their household. She earns more than her dH who is an engineer with a Phd!!!

and they most definitely do not live in poverty.

Lots of teachers have a Phd. Why should he earn more? Because he is a man? Or an engineer-ie. has a degree in engineering?

I think they are right to strike.
I personally do not think it is ok for teachers to be nearly 70 and teaching badly behaved teenagers who are often violent and agressive.
Ok not all are but a hell of a lot of kids are badly behaved and not disciplined at home resulting in teachers having to deal with them at school with very little in the form of punishments. I do not want my children taught under such circumstances, but hell this government don't give a damn about state education, they can all afford to pick and choose the best schools.

Thats life cricket. Dh has a phd and will have spent 50 years in research when he retires. No pension.
Inlaws are ex teachers and have a pension double what we earn and always earned way more than dh has ever managed. I dont think teachers will starve.

What I meant was that engineers are regarded as well paid and she earns more.