to pronounce the champagne Moet mow-ett as opposed to Mow-ay and have a ridiculously stupid mini-row about it?

[GetOrf]

Disclaimer - I am not a poncetastic twat. Get that in before you lot accuse me.

At MILs last night, couple of SILs there. My MIL loves champagne, it was a distinct luxury when she was younger and I don't think she bought a bottle until she was in her 40s. Now she is making up for lost time and I always buy her a decent bottle for her birthdays, mothers day etc.

We were talking about different brands, and she was remembering the different ones she has tried, I said that a cheapish one which I had bought from Sainsbos (Charles something) was rated in the Sunday Times as being better than the more recognised brands such as Moet etc.

At which point my SIL laughed scoffingly and said 'I would have thought you would have known that the French don't5 pronounce the t on the end of the word, it is pronounce Mow-AY' (said in full on condescending terms).

I said fuck off dicksplash 'no it is pronounced Mo-ETT, theword is Dutch anyway'

She carried on 'no it's not, champagne is French not dutch, next you will be saying Edam comes from Wales'

She really got on my tits.

if you're thinking about the champagne tour at moet (now we know how to say it) get the 'vintage tasting menu'. it's a bit more expensive but the champagne is fabulous!

Aquavit your name makes me want herrings!

I spent a lot of time in Provence when I was a kid, so my accent is somewhat strange. Parisians (in my experience) generally look down on anyone from the south of France... but they are intrigued by my weird English/Provençal mutterings, and always ask where I'm from...

I reckon (veteran of many, MANY MN pronounciation threads).

For food - if you know and can pronounce the name in the original language, and don't mind looking like a ponce - go for it. So, choritho (if you speak Spanish with a lisp), Mo-ett, cwoissant etc. etc.

Place names - if there's a very well known English version, use that so Paris instead of Paree etc. If it's a small Tuscan village that you went to on half term hols where you ate delightful local cheese and boutique ones, use local pronounciation

The one that has resulted in literally decades of arguments between my mother and I is the pronounciation of Moscow. It's a problem. In Russian, it's Moskva, so you can't go for the "local" pronounciations. She pronounces it "Moss-cow" (like the animal) and I say "Moss-co".

Help please!

wines not ones

True Bovril.

Parisians hate it, other French think Provencal is delightful. DP's from Marseille and has been teaching me all the slang phrases to shock and annoy Parisians with. So, filad for fight, fada for crazy, footix for someone who pretends to be a football fan, but really isn't (as Olympique de Marseille is the religion in Marseille, footix is a real insult) ... I'm still waiting to learn the baaaaaaaaad swear words

Moet was dutch and you should pronounce it Mo-ett

however to get in an argument about it was totally poncetastic because most, ignorant, brits and yanks pronounce it the french way - because it's champagne innit so it must be french

just laugh inwardly

Abs - my mother always takes great delight when she is asked if she is Belgian when she speaks in France, she thinks it's a compliment...

Unfortunately I was too young to learn any decent swear words

Stick to Veuve.

And slap you dumbarse sil.

I don't agree that most folk from Paris look down on those from the South of France. MIL is from there and so is her very large family. They go to the South for holidays. Paris folk do look down on bad dressers, bad food and sloppy French.......

I did say in my experience Punk!

that's my experience to. But to be more accurate, my experience of many Parisians is that they look down on everyone

Definitely Mow-ett.
DH did some work for them, they are VERY particular about it.
No free samples, unfortunately.

You did indeed, Bovril. (great user name by the way - I don't like Bovril but it making me hungry) I hate to break it to your mother but the French make jokes about the Belgians the way we used to (before PC) make jokes about nationalities like the Irish. There is a whole cache of those style jokes that really don't make me laugh, but seem to have them in stitches. So to be mistaken for Belgian is not generally a compliment.

My MIL also pronounces Porsche as Portia.

If a food is French, Spanish etc - I do make an effort. I don't see it as poncy..

mwett

And btw is is broos-kett-ah

Not broo - shetta - ah

(personal pet peeve)

Could I ask about latte please? As in cafe latte
How do you all say it?
I know alot of people say Lar-tay but (even though I'm a true southeasterner, ie. barth, grarss, parss etc) I say Latt-ay
Any thoughts?

I would say Lar-Tay?

I say Latt-Ay

But I have a filthy accent anyway.

Punk, I know

One of my Italian friends told me a rule for Italian pronunciation...

you say all the letters, so Bruschetta is bruscketta, and I believe that As are flat in Modern Italian (my only experience is learning Latin at school!) so a latte is lat-te.

I'm sure this has region variations though!

Porsch-eh

and aahdee das

if you are going poncy German pronunciation

Never knew the correct Möet pronunciation. We buy generic champagne from a bloke in DH's work whose sister has a vineyard in Champagne area. They supply some of the big Champagne houses but make their own. Total bargain - ?100 for a case of 6 and tastes every bit as good as the branded stuff.

I love your MIL, Getorf.

ShirleyKnot - a filthy accent??!!

Gino Diwhatsname always jumps up and down about pronouncing bruschetta!

So, is my latte pronunciation correct do we think?

Just to wind DH up, I pronounce as such FaJ-eye-tahs, and Moj-eye-tos.. It sometimes backfires though, if you forget you're in public and ask for a moj-eye-to, and the barman looks at you like you crawled out of the lastest pond

In the theatre, we are always getting people ringing up asking about

LeZ Miz-rah-belz,

Lez - Mizzer - ables

Its Le (as in Lemon) Mizz (as in fizz) Rarb (as in carb). Silent 'l' on the end.

My mum asked for khia-batta in an Italian restaurant.

They were rather confused.

My brother was once asked for a "tekwila and coke" when he worked in a bar.

I was greatly amused when we went to a French restaurant in NY, and DP (and I was trying, very hard) to pronounce everything in the correct French way. And the waitress was from Alabama so ...
DP "Can I have the riyet"
Waitress "you mean the rillits? Yeah, sure" (DP dies a little inside)
Hours of fun.

Lartay for latte makes me want to poke people's eyes out

I know it's not as classy as Moet, but how do you pronounce nougat? I say it "noo-gar", dh says nug-gat"