TO SAY Camerons Policies are in danger of getting all disabled people labelled as "Scroungers"

[ScousyFogarty]

That is a wicked thing do do and David Cameron beeds to apologise or more likely get one of his flunkies to say SORRY

devientenigma I don't think one of mine will ever work... the other two may do with support - that's why I am trying to maximise their development and education now to give them the best possible chance..... but some people don't get that

They'll save a few quid on the educational assistance not realising that long term it may make my DD benefits dependent for life.

I have tbh my ds is a financial drain on the government already due to his needs. He is not getting the right support or help now before cuts. Does that mean we cut his life further??

According to tory ideology yes you do.

so does his suffering before cuts make him fortunate?? So what does that make him after??

Um... he was minted. Living up the high life. Just slightly chastened after, cos after all we're living it up!!!

You still get money to live on other than the DLA and carers don't you? I really hope so.

I can see that all sounds very expensive. I want to ask a few questions to understand better though, please don't take offence, and don't answer if you don't want to.

Wouldn't an average stay at home mum (with no disabled dependents) need to keep the home temp quite consistent and do more washing than normal too though, hazard of children isn't it!

Does that mean you can't go outside in winter because of temp? Must be very hard to manage if so.

Light, yes you're home more, but you don't need light in the daytime do you?

What do you do with rejected food, just bin it? Can you just offer a tiny bit and if acceptable serve the rest, if not freeze the rest of the portion to use at another time?

Any chance of getting set water rates rather than paying by amount used?

I'm unsure of the extent of the damage to house/things/clothes but can't clothes be patched and broken toys etc. fixed if possible and if not then I suppose wait until another is affordable. I don't known what disabilities you mean so some or all of this may be totally irrelevant.

we have been told my ds will end up institutionalised, does that mean he will cost the government more than keeping him with us on DLA??? Never mind without??

NO your children can wear extra layers and control their body temperature unlike a child with a disability/circulatory/ heart conditions.

I always have mixed feelings about these threads. On the one hand I don't want people who are disabled to be put through the stress of jumping through hoops. On the otherhand I personally knwo 2 people who have boasted that they managed to get DLA in one case and incapacity in the other case by lying and pretending they were ill. I don't want people to be getting benefits like this when they are well.

Glitter, just seen that you get nothing else except DLA and carers. There must be some income though, would you get more income support than £1 if not claiming dla or carers? I was not aware that it is possible for a family with no one working to have no access to income from benefits in this country.

I have been stuck in the house with my 10 yo for years, who does not attend his special school either due to his needs.

Sorry for my ignorance, dev, but why can't children with those problems wear extra layers? Does it affect them badly compared to altering the ambient temperature?

I only get carers allowance and ds gets dla.

my ds has a problem keeping his clothes on anywhere. He is severly tactile defensive.

Can you elaborate dev, why doesn't he go to special school? Do you think it isn't the right place for him?

So do you not get other benefits, because you get those? If those stopped, would you be entitled to others, as you aren't working?

Can understand re. him not keeping clothes on!

yes the house is wrecked and lots of houeshold stuff broken through major meltdowns. My ds is physically so strong and has sometimes had 6 people to restrain him.

Wrt to the temp then yeah maybe a SAHM would need to maintain temp... in the toddler years. Once school years reached I'd say you don't need to keep it that high when it's just you at home and the kids at school... mine are not at school ft when they really should be.

We do go outside in winter, and we have to deal with the meltdowns accordingly. Having to do that more than strictly necessary would be unbearably stressful.

Light, in our case yes we do as we have tall pine trees at the end of the garden, not on our property and the land owner refuses to deal with them.

Rejected food - don't really fancy refreezing after it's been played with and spat in. Strategies are in place but fads are so changeable it's not predictable.

We're metered, our local water authority are now insisting upon it.

Clothes could be patched but it's time I rarely have, even this evening I've been up administering a nebuliser in between posts. I only buy Asda stuff anyway. Toys don't tend to break, it's more often furniture and often irreparably so.

As for disabilities, taking into account all three there is Autism, ADHD, Hypermobility (which effects ability to walk long distance) fine and gross motor issues, hearing imparment, severe visual impairment, sensory hyper and hypo sensitivity, renal and cardiac issues.

Cost is time scales. Most kids are off to school all day at 4.

Ok, as for layers, big no no. Sensory issues dictate that one of mine rolls his sleeves up and cannot stand anything on his forearms with only thin layers above that.

We do get tax credits yes, but under universal credits they are halving the disability premium on that so we'd get significantly less there, with no disabled premium if no DLA.

Special school is too much to handle for my ds, the class size is too big, the noise is unbearable and the day too long. They also don't meet his special needs as he needs more specialised than special school.

How did people manage before DLA? I'm not getting at you, it is a genuine question as DLA didn't exist 20 years ago. So what happened then?

And to say the 27% of working age population includes a lot of people with chronic illnesses and disabilities who can work. I am not saying that those not working could work. As a manager, with my role, I get told by employees about illnesses/disabilities they have and how this affects them. So in our small workplace with 26 staff we have someone with mild cerebral palsy, someone with genetic damage to lungs, someone who is recovering from cancer, someone with familial tremor, someone with spinal problems caused by car crash years ago, someone with diabetes type 2, and someone with crones. And that is just the stuff I know about.

The reality is, especially amongst middle age people, that there are lots of people working who have chronic ill health. But you may never know this. So if you are complaining about DLA, don't think for a minute that the 27% of people mentioned are getting benefits or not contributing to society through taxes, because they are.

they were institutionalised

Sounds like a nightmare, fair play to you for managing so well. Is there any way you can get them into school ft, as you say they should be? Sounds like not much you can do re. light! I meant only offer a tiny bit of food, then the rest if the first bit is acceptable. So the bit you froze wouldn't be touched at all! Shame about the water rates. Re. patching clothes, think I would not bother and just keep torn things for at home use! The furniture sounds expensive. Any way you can maximise 'unbreakable' things like beanbags not chairs etc? It sounds like you've got a wide range of disabilities to deal with and the best of luck to you, I hope you get all of the available support.

I still think cuts need to be made though, to ensure the continuation of the welfare state that allows all of the necessary support for families like your own. If things carried on as they were under labour, the country would soon be on it's knees and then where would we be.

my dh has diabeties, doesn't claim any dla or benefits and is in employment. However he was quizzed about how often he went to the toilet lol