TO SAY Camerons Policies are in danger of getting all disabled people labelled as "Scroungers"

[ScousyFogarty]

That is a wicked thing do do and David Cameron beeds to apologise or more likely get one of his flunkies to say SORRY

so basically you are saying the downs who needs a wheelchair qualifies and the downs that doesn't, doesn't.

it's about being unable or virtually unable to walk to get mobility
care is a different matter

two of mine have mobility issues, one doesn't

so ok why does my ds need a wheelchair yet my neice who is also downs doesn't, yet we both get motability

I have no idea, I don't know the intricacies of their medical records. I have two children who find walking more than a few metres painful and tiring, therefore they qualify. One of mine can walk fine and he gets low rate as he's not safe outside alone.

why does my ds have a lot more problems than her yet they both have the same care.

devient- a diagnosis of downs doesn't always mean that the child is entitled to DLA, it is if the child is unable to carry out day to day activities compared to a average child of the same age. So some have to wait until their child is older. Meanwhile the child may not have been able to take part in leisure activities because of the attitude towards disability by others.

I very much that the child you described only has a bit of a speech problem but gets the same award.

Again, not privy to medical records, nor the thoughts of the decision makers. I actually believe my DS2 has been awarded too low as DD who has the same needs gets a different rate to him, but I'm not rocking the boat as they could stop it altogether.

devient-does your neice become breathless, they take into account the physical damage that exertion could cause.

Also mobility is the ability to manage 'risk and danger' so if a child needs more supervision outside than an average child of the same age then they are awarded mobility as the indeed do have a 'mobility' issue.

Right. DD has finally settled after nebuliser, I'm going to try get some shut eye as no doubt I will be up again in a few hours.

Fourth night running.... getting quite hard to deal with tbh

birds, no she has no respiratory or heart probs.

Care again is risk indoors and outdoors (communication etc) and takes into account cognitive functioning, danger to oneself, danger to others and anxiety.

THey contact the school, also to make sure that what you put on the form is correct, in your case you have just nort been aware. So if you get mobility and the child is top of sports at school, they will find out.

I just thank my lucky starts then that someone has done ours for us. Fingers crossed I can get help next time.

Vunerability has also become a factor due to 'safeguarding' being on the agenda. So if you could not teach the child about inappropriate touching, for example, that could be taken into account.

it's my dd with adhd etc who is top at sports if you saw that post.

I just remember when welfare benefits came out last time, she said there was no need to write everything as when you write down the heart condition they realise it's one of the more severe irrepareable ones. So thats all they need to know.

You won't have a problem because you have definate medical diagnosises but for some LD's, it is a minefield, proving anxiety, risk etc add communication problems and the world is a scary place. Funnily enough my DD could play out when she was younger but as she got to about 10 then it had to stop because the difference became noticible to peers which put her in danger.

thats hard. My son is on prozac for his anxiety.

They will actually ask why you haven't asked the GP to change meds if they are not working, as though these things can be cured that easily. They do try to trip people up continually. Thats what stops people claiming in the first place. The problems are added to as alot of the CAB type organisations (i volunteer in one) are closing so people have no where to go for advice and representation.

I'm off to bed also.

He's hitty missy with his meds which is why they poss don't work due to his challenging behaviour. You then put it in a drink, he stops drinking, put it in food, he stops eating. About a year or two ago when he was last in hospital, on his death bed with double pneumonia, they struggled with him so much they asked us for tactics which we couldn't give any more than we had all tried anyway. So they phoned the school nurse to find the same. Again, he hadn't come round after an operation on his teeth when we were getting the call from recovery to come and try to calm him due to him attacking staff and trying to pull out his stitches. So it's not just me who has problems with him.
yeah I can see the knock on effect, but as the op asked are all disabled people labelled as scroungers, it has been proven some are, even if it is a minority. As with all benefits you will always have your cheats. I don't know how they get away with it and maybe if the government knew or was able to tighten up criteria or elegibilty things may improve. As for loosing DLA alltogether for all disabled people the need for support will be made in other areas in turn still costing the government.

Yes enigma The governments drive against the disabled is part publicity stunt. They see a soft target like the disabled. (when the know they will never seriously tackle bankers or business tax cheats.) Although Nick Clegg keeps promising to do so.

scousy what planet are you living on? A publicity stunt? Yes because it looks really good to seem as if you are taking food out of the mouths of disabled people doesn't it?

Ffs are you for real?

Well it would certainly get them attention...