Measles Outbreak?

[MoaningLisa]

I am sure you have all heard on the news that there has been an outbreak of measles.

Papers, Schools, Hv, Drs are saying if you or your child haven't had the vaccine(s) now would be a good time to get it done.

I cant help but think though that the parents who haven't and wont get their child vaccinated are putting their children at risk.

Aibu to think that its just bloody selfish and very daring to play with their own childs life?

Well, let's all not bother to be grateful that the majority of the world was vaccinated against small pox, resulting in the herd immunity that has enabled the virus to be wiped out then shall we? Cos let's face it, so long as MY child is ok, I really couldn't care less about the rest of the population; particularly those unable for whatever reason, to have the vaccination.

GAFG - unless there is a valid medical reason for not vaccinating a particular child against these very very dangerous diseases, we owe it to the whole of the world's children to vaccinate.

I suspect those yoghurt knitters who refuse to have "nasty, non-organic vaccines" put into their children would he the first to complain if "the authorities" refused them some form of treatment.

My kids are both allergic to egg. I decided to wait until they were a bit older before giving them the MMR hoping their bodies would be better able to cope with the load on their immune system. DS has just had his age 4.

I'm hoping the herd immunity will protect DD until she has it.

snort @ Yoghurt knitters

There is much or chance of complications from having measles (in an otherwise perfectly healthy child) than from having the vaccination. Anyone kidding themselves that not vaccinating their progeny is protecting them (so long as there isn't a medical reason) is very selfish imo.

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LadyoftheManor and others should be thanking their lucky stars for the herd immunity-not getting annoyed. I really don't think that you have the least idea what measles is like and that your DD could die.

Trixy - let's hope it does. If all of us who have no medical reason not to, do, then you can rest easy. Unfortunately, if too many of the "I'm all right Jack" people don't, then you may worry.

Why do you care? Your children are vaccinated so what difference does it make to you if my child catches it?

Until it's a legal requirement, you'll all just have to grumble about it nothing you can do.

I think that if I went blind from measles complications I wouldn't be too impressed wth my mother's reasons for not having had me vaccinated.

I've heard this argument before - "I thought I'd wait until they got some immunity before I vaccinated them". Vaccinating them gives them immunity - quickly. Why wait.

mum76

All well and good but .Paed/immunologist agreed no point trying to vacinate my dd against anything when they realised that normal baby jabs had not took nore the flu jabs.

And then I do get people asking about the mmr and when I say no .I end up with a long lecture becuase people do not understand also includes the well the ASd link was never prooven .I now can not be bothered to correct them and explain why dd has no jabs .

Exotic fruits
I will never take dd to india and realsistically never out of Europe or USA as i all to aware what I could be exposing her to but then on the other hand chickenpoxs every time hospitliases her a cold often does .

So it's ok if your child gets measles and then passes it on to a child who couldn't have the vaccine because of medical issues?

Very caring attitude.

That was to the 'lady'.

LAOTM - so, no one should tell anyone what do do with "their" children? Compulsary education - piss off, I'm sending mine up a chimney. Feeding it -piss off, I'm spending my money of fags. I could go on bit I think you get my point.

If the risk is that small, why do I know so many stories of people being permanently damaged by a vpd? Even the venerable and vehemently pro-choice on vacc JimJams often mentioned that her mother was deaf in one ear due to measles (my dad is deaf in one ear due to meningitis).

I wish people didn't get so bothered about measles, that one's bad but not horrendous. Now, tetanus?... polio?... diptheria?. Those are seriously friggin' scarey. I can understand dithering over MMR, but polio & tetanus...?

Good god

I am an immunologist. I have a PhD in infectious disease immunology from a world-class university. I am vaccinating my children. I just cannot BELIEVE some of the opinions on this thread , I am finding it truly upsetting. To put immunocompromised children, allergic children and pregnant women at risk for a tiny, TINY vaccine risk, to go against all medical advice, to take advantage of the community behaviour of most other people in the country - it is shocking.

And the pseudo-science on this thread is also shocking. How do people, for example like the poster a few pages back, decide with ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that three viruses at once is ok but four is overloading the system? It's bizarre.

Sorry human catapult - I'm not sure what your argument is - please say again.

Just to reiterate, if a Dr or eminent scientist has told you not to vaccinate your child, then I would take their advice.

Otherwise, I cannot understand why you would put your dc at risk. To me, and this a personal opinion for which I'm sure I'll get a flaming, I think it's neglect.

I just cannot BELIEVE some of the opinions on this thread , I am finding it truly upsetting.

I am totally shocked too. I wish I hadn't started reading. I just cannot believe the sheer selfishness of people-it is beyond belief and that they can try and justify it! I am still reeling from 'I don't buy into all this collective social responsibility crap'. (I wish they could be forced to)

Bigkids - at last a qualified voice of reason. Thank goodness.

I've childminded a 4 year old who had measles encephalitis at 9 months (too young to be immunised) she contracted it from he cousins who came on holidays to their house and became ill while they were there. She is now disabled, deaf and blind the lost all her fingers on one hand.
Here is the Bupa information sheet

I have damaged eyesight from a dose of measles as a child. My children are vaccinated.

wonder if they will ever make it law to have certain vaccines in the UK like they do in some other countries, where your child has to have had certain vaccines before they start school.

I saw a mummy catfight outside a school recently about just this issue - each of them accusing the mums of other children of infecting their child with measles.

Sadly, none of them saw the irony.

There's also the issue that many jobs require you to be vaccinated. I'm thinking anything health service, labs, dealing with animals. To those of you who don't vaccinate, how happy do you think your dcs are going to be to have to pay a fortune to have these all at once in order to get the job of their choosing?

And I'd say I was rather worried about all the combined vaccinations on tiny immune systems that I just dug deep in my pocket to have ds have the mmr as single vaccines.

I'm still not convinced about all this combined vaccines but I'm damned sure I think that vaccines per say are for the greater good.

I know alot of people are not willing to dig deep with their fears so instead rely on the rest of us to keep their child from getting illnesses. In those cases (kids without conditions that prevent them being vaccinated) I think the parents are being highly entitled.

It was those rather highly entitled parents today that were having a go at one another.

"highly entitled" - how beautifully polite! :)