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GirlFriendExperience · 22/05/2011 14:32

That I'm an escort girl/call girl/high class prositute (whatever you want to call it) ...

I love my job, I'm very good at it, I pay taxes, it's not illegal and I help a lot of people. So why should I spend my life apologising for it/lying about it/defending myself??

  • Yes have name changed in case I get flamed... which in itself is depressing!
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LadyOfTheManor · 24/05/2011 15:14

I condemn both who buy and sell sex, male or female.

Sorry about forcing you to equalise them. I thought feminism was about equality.

Do those men deserve any less empathy than female prostitutes because they're in the 2%?

dittany · 24/05/2011 15:26

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LadyOfTheManor · 24/05/2011 15:26

Yet you refuse to answer...

expatinscotland · 24/05/2011 15:27
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frantic51 · 24/05/2011 15:31

Gosh, I've been out all day and I really can't go through all the posts in detail but I just wanted to say to dittany,

  1. I apologise for referring to the woman in your link as a "girl" and a "lady" I can assure you that no offence was intended.

  2. When I asked about her background, I was really asking how she got into prostitution in the first place, sorry if I didn't make myself clear. No, I am not "pronouncing" on her lack of writing skills just that it seems to me she has either missed out on education somewhere along the line or that she is possibly not writing in her first language. Of course I am aware there are writing "styles" but these are usually employed in creative writing not in pieces that are designed to get a point across. I would find it most peculiar if this was merely "stylistic" given the content.

  3. I find your idea that all we have to do is "get rid of the demand" for the sex industry overly simplistic and really quite naive. Drugs are illegal, but there's still a demand and still people willing to run the risk to trade. Prohibition failed, abortion was made legal because there were too many people willing to risk the wrath of the law to make a quick buck by butchering women.

Sex, sexual arousal, sexual release are all very pleasurable and we are all biologically programmed to respond. What about people who, for one reason or another, find it impossible to get a sexual partner in the "normal" way, usually because of severe disability or disfigurement, or perhaps they have a spouse/partner who for health reasons is no longer able to enter into sexual relations but whom the person does not want to leave in order to start a new relationship. You would condemn all these people to a life of celibacy would you? I thought you hated the Catholic church for it's belief that sex outside marriage is not permissible? OK, your categories are far wider ranging it's true but the principle is the same. Consenting adults are only allowed to have sex under certain sets of circumstances laid down by you. Hmm

BTW, I broadly agree with LadyOfTheManor, she talks a lot of sense.

carmenelectra · 24/05/2011 15:32

Just flicked through this. Probably missed loads and off track now.

On one hand I think, Yeah, its ok to be an escort if you have the nerve abd don't mind shagging (generally) middle aged men. making the most of your looks to bloke who are mug enough to cough up.

Then I think of threads on here where posters have caught their DH's cheating with escorts and it makes me feel sick.

I know its not the responsibilty of the woman in this situation, but I guess I would feel pretty bad if I thought a married man was paying me for sex then going home to his unsuspecting family. Yuck.

I don't technically have a problem with being a prostitute and there are certainly some men who may have been helped- those finding it difficult to interact with women etc. However, there are certain elements that make me uneasy, especially when an escort says she saves marriages and shit like that.

So I guess what I am saying sell yourself all you like to single men, but I feel rather different if the fellas's are married/attached!

dittany · 24/05/2011 15:33

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carmenelectra · 24/05/2011 15:39

I would also, like to know what an escort loves about her job. Truly.

I could shag men for money if i had to. Dont think I would claim to love it though Confused

Surely It is a job, and the men a prostitute has sex with are not part of her private sex life, where she loves what she is doing with a man she fancies.

I suppose there must be some women who do love it and who get off having sex with any old starnger, but I guess they are in the minority.

LadyOfTheManor · 24/05/2011 15:49

Do all Catholic Church members rape children and cover it up?

Wow I knew of some, but wasn't aware they all did it.

Where does that statistic come from?

dittany · 24/05/2011 15:56

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TheCrackFox · 24/05/2011 15:57

OP - are you in a grump because you couldn't get a mortage?
Why would a bank manager give you a loan based on your current earnings? You say you are a "high class prostitute" now but give it 10 yrs you will be working the street corners and charging £10 for a wank. Rich men like to have youngish fuck holes. I hope you have a back up career plan.

LadyOfTheManor · 24/05/2011 15:58

and I quote....

"I hate the Catholic church because they rape children".

Animation · 24/05/2011 16:00

"I suppose there must be some women who do love it and who get off having sex with any old starnger, but I guess they are in the minority."

I also wondered if that might be true, and if it is true it doesn't seem to be something that women generally admit to. They usually blame a bad drug habit or something. But it's possible that they do 'enjoy' the sex. I don't know.

dittany · 24/05/2011 16:03

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Animation · 24/05/2011 16:21

Could the 'enjoyment' of sex with random men and also drug addiction be a combined thing - one and the same addiction. Both giving some kind of high or escapism? Again I don't know - I'd like to understand it.

dittany · 24/05/2011 16:23

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LadyOfTheManor · 24/05/2011 16:28

Would you enjoy it if it's something you chose to do ten or twenty times a day?

Let's remember that these women take money in exchange for sexual favours, and while are often abused and raped, are not always raped when working. They take the money in exchange for sex.

Animation · 24/05/2011 16:31

No, I wouldn't do it.

I assume that women who fall into prostitution have come from a sexualized background - and probably sexually abused in their childhood.

They may choose to do all that they know - and when I talk of 'enjoyment' I'm not particularly referring to a healthy enjoyment - just conditioned behaviours.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 24/05/2011 16:33

Callgirls/escorts would never see 10 or 20 clients a day. Why do these threads always end up back on the streets?

thebestisyettocome · 24/05/2011 16:36

The OP's 'job' makes me shudder. For anybody who thinks this is OK next time you are on a train imagine the strange men sitting near you walking through your front door and demanding sex. Worse still an obnoxious bunch of men on a stag night. I don't see it as glamorous at all Sad

aliceliddell · 24/05/2011 16:39

A lot of women don't call it 'sex', they call it 'prostituting' because they don't experience it as a sexual experience of mutual enjoyment. The pimps and punters call it sex because for them, it's the same. Does this tell us nothing about their sexual relationships with women? Carmenelectra - how does this 'help' men in their relationships with women? It teaches them to expect compliance, that's for sure.

Animation · 24/05/2011 16:40

Imagine your father walking through your bedroom door demanding sex. You can't get much worse than that. That's the kind of background many prostitutes have.

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