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Would this be a deal breaker with your sister, genuine advice needed.

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kitty4paws · 15/05/2011 22:11

I have posted before about this but I had the threads removed as they had to much personal information on them , but I would really appreciate some advice.

In summary DH has severe short term memory problems. Can?t remember stuff from 5 minutes ago.

He was originaly diagnosed with dementia but now it is thought to be functional amnesia, no change in his symptoms, just in his diagnosis. But thank god NOT dementia.

DH has spent a lot of time round at MY Sister?s house (His SIL)

I found out by total, total accident that :

a) My sister obtained a signed letter from DH to access DH?s medical notes. DH can not remember having signed a letter at all but I trust / believe that he signed it under his own volition.

b) My sister was due to attend an appointment (without DH or myself being asked to attend) to speak to DH?s GP about DH?s medical notes. DH can not remember even making an appointment but again I have to trust that the appointment was made by my DH.

DH puts all sorts of stuff in his phone so that afterwards he can ?remember?. He calls the phone his ?brain?. He knows that I look through it regularly so I know what?s going on when I am not with him.

No entry in his phone AT ALL about either the notes or the appointment though other medcial stuff he has discussed at my sister?s has been put in his phone.

DH can not remember what he said to my sister (of course) but has NEVER asked anyone else to keep anything from me (the TOTAL opposite is true).

I have had various heated ?discussions? via e-mail with my sister, trying to sort all of this out.

I have asked the following question (Via e-mail (from me) and signed letter (from DH) )

?Did DH specifically say that I was NOT to be told about the notes / GP appointment ??

My sister refuses to answer. She has stated in other e-mails that :

? I do not have to justify my actions in any way?

? My conversations with DH are private and confidential? Though it is ok for the man she cares for to be present for all the conversations ( she is a live-in-carer)

Also (BEFORE the change in diagnosis to functional amnesia) she did not inform me of other medical information and she said that was reasonable because

? at that time I did not see DH?s memory problem as dementia?

Soooooo apparently a man with no memory can ?chose? to tell me stuff Confused and she is deciding his diagnosis rather than his consultant Hmm

I have made sure that DH (and his medical information) is ?safe? and my sister has backed off from contact with DH but she expects that over time it will all be ok (the usual way ?stuff? is handled in our family e.g. don?t talk about it just wait untill it all just sort of ?goes away?)

WWYD ?
What reasonable explaination might she have for refusing to give the information?
Would her refusal to answer this be a ?deal breaker? ?
Would you end your relationship with your sister over this ?
Advice greatly appreciated.

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kitty4paws · 15/05/2011 23:09

I agree with getting an injunction against her

I don't feel this is necessary, she has ceased ALL contact with DH, an injunction would only serve to make her do what she is already doing.

(unless I misunderstand the role of an injunction Confused)

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kitty4paws · 15/05/2011 23:11

What do your family say about this?

the one person I know she has told has asked why I am making HER upset ( and also withdrawn promised financial support)

I have not told any other members of the family , I do not want this to be a sides taking issue.

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AgentZigzag · 15/05/2011 23:11

Do you trust that she's backed off for good now kitty?

If it's been going on for a while now, why is now any different to before?

kitty4paws · 15/05/2011 23:15

Do you trust that she's backed off for good now kitty?

I wrote a very emotional email to her, laying out all my feelings etc ( I had only been factual uptill then)

She has not contacted me at all since but wrote to DH ( and put it in his phone) that he was not to call round , she would not conact him.

But it also said that she hoped Time would make a difference e.g. sweep it under the carpet.

So for the moment , yes I trust that she has backed off , and If I make no move to forget all of this then time hasn't made any difference has it !

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ChippingIn · 15/05/2011 23:18

I think you should talk to your 'now not lending the money' sister again. Not to get the money but to see if you can get to the bottom of your other sisters mad behaviour and put your side forward.

If she pulls any other stunts I would definitely tell her that you will report her to her governing body.

I'm glad your DH finally had been convinced not to go around there.

PumpkinSnatch · 15/05/2011 23:19

I remember you posting about this before. And I remember thinking that she was massively overstepping the mark and actually seemed unhinged if I tell the truth. This would be strange behaviour were it HIS sister let alone yours.
What has your sister said about the fact she no longer has contact with your DH?
As for you still having contact with her - do you enjoy spending time with her or get anything out of the relationship? If not there's no reason why you need to have contact with her just because she's your sister. If you do decide to keep contact - I would tell her NOTHING about your DH.

ChippingIn · 15/05/2011 23:19

Do you think they were ever too close or that in her mind they were closer than a BIL/SIL should ever be?

MadamDeathstare · 15/05/2011 23:21

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

kitty4paws · 15/05/2011 23:21

I think I will try to speak to my other sister who ( as far as I know) is the only other member of the family who is aware of the situation.

I have asked my sister who else she has spoken to but she refuses to answer.

My other sister and I anre not very close ( she left home when I was very young) but hopefully she can give another viewpoint on the situation.

A good piece of advice, thanks

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AgentZigzag · 15/05/2011 23:21

I don't see it as holding a grudge against a person when you fall out about something important like this and refuse to have anything to do with them.

I see it as once you've seen someones true colours and the depths they'd sink to, you've made a reasoned choice it's not in your best interests to spend time with that person.

You must feel very betrayed.

Gooseberrybushes · 15/05/2011 23:23

This is not a grudge - you've discovered something about your sister which is really quite abominable and which she thinks is entirely acceptable, justifiable and right. It's not a grudge when this happens. If it was me it would be active dislike, which is quite different from a grudge.

kitty4paws · 15/05/2011 23:23

PumpkinSnatch

I do not see my sister at all, I have only had e-mail contact since I called her on her behaviour.

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PumpkinSnatch · 15/05/2011 23:24

OP - not sure if you've missed the questions or you'd rather not answer but do you think your sister has romantic feelings towards your DH? Because I must admit that's the impression I have had from this and your other threads on the subject.

kitty4paws · 15/05/2011 23:26

Loans from family can be problematic anyway.

you are quite right, I have extended the mortgage a bit so now we can decide what to do with the house ( on a MUCh smaller scale) rather than other sister rejecting all our suggestions and giving us a choice between HER two preferred solutions.

( not that I am ungreatful for the offer of support but it is MY house after all I m th eone who has to live here)

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AgentZigzag · 15/05/2011 23:26

I wasn't suggesting anyone thought the OP was holding a grudge gooseberry, I missed putting in the post that I was wondering whether the family might spin this as kitty being OTT about the situation.

I've heard similar myself, so I know how people try to justify crap like this.

Gooseberrybushes · 15/05/2011 23:28

No I know, I thought the OP was worried about being seen to hold a grudge. I agree with you and feel she shouldn't be guilt tripped.

kitty4paws · 15/05/2011 23:29

but do you think your sister has romantic feelings towards your DH

This is really , really not an option, I do not want to go into details ( its her personal information) but this has NEVER been a worry.

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WinkyWinkola · 15/05/2011 23:31

Your sister needs some serious help.

I'd suggest absolutely no more contact with her. I wouldn't tell anyone what's happening with your dh in case it gets back to her.

I would advise anyone who has input into your dh's health records that your sister is not someone who is allowed to enquire or contribute to them.

I'm really Shock. Your sister is, I'm afraid, delusional.

WinkyWinkola · 15/05/2011 23:32

I mean don't tell anyone in the family, not health professionals. Be vague and optimistic with family but I guess you know who you can trust, op.

kitty4paws · 15/05/2011 23:33

I was wondering whether the family might spin this as kitty being OTT about the situation.

This is EXCATLY what I am worried about, she is VERY good at wriggling out of things, talking the tlak, makign everything seem sooooooo reasonable I would come across as the unhinged, emotionaly unviable wreck of a wife.

I fear ( and I know this is just being paranoid) that if she knew more about me and my DC's she'd try to get them taken away from me. So I give no information AT ALL, I just feel like Iwoudl be giving her amunition ( how abad is that to think that of your own sister Sad Sad)

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kitty4paws · 15/05/2011 23:34

I would advise anyone who has input into your dh's health records that your sister is not someone who is allowed to enquire or contribute to them.

Done, on bright yellow paper Grin

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WinkyWinkola · 15/05/2011 23:35

It's not bad at all to think that you can't trust your own sister given her weird behaviour interfering in yours and your dh's lives.

She should feel terrible. Not you. You haven't done anything wrong. She really has.

I would have cut her out of my life a looong time ago but then I'm pretty intolerant of interfering busybodies who make my business theirs.

WinkyWinkola · 15/05/2011 23:37

Why would she want to take your dcs away from you? Why? What does she think you've done to deserve that?

God, what an awful fear to live with.

You must chop her out of your lives. She sounds utterly toxic, controlling and mad.

Gooseberrybushes · 15/05/2011 23:37

Well I don't know what others think but after that post I think it may be time to be pro-active rather than withdrawing.

It may be alright for now but are you sure it will stay this way?

What damage is she doing and what lies is she spreading while you are not in touch?

What could she know about you and the children?

Perhaps you should lodge an official complaint with the health authority? Can you "confide" in a member of your family that you are "worried" about your sister's strange obsession with your husband?

kitty4paws · 15/05/2011 23:38

I mean don't tell anyone in the family, not health professionals

That would have made appointments a bit weird Grin

so Mrs.Kitty how are things

Mr's kitty look at the wall.

eehhh ? Well could you say if things are better of worse ?

Mrs.Kitty fiddles with sleve.

Oh, well then, see you next week

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