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To want smoking banned in public playgrounds

219 replies

onadietcokebreak · 28/04/2011 19:04

why should I remove my child because a smoker ( two in my case today) thinks it's okay to smoke in a small enclosed playground.

Can't they wait til their children have finished? Bloody selfish in my opinion ( as a ex smoker)

OP posts:
MmaIvvy · 28/04/2011 22:01

Sorry onagar I don't quite get the point you're making. Does it seem I am not trying to be sensible about it rather than make sweeping generalisations? I don't remember saying that every bad thing that ever happened was because of smokers.
As for my other comment you have quoted I made that because people seem to keep comparing the OP's incident of people smoking next to her child with the much wider issue of lots of people using cars all the time which to me is not really a direct comparison.

NickRobinsonsloveslave · 28/04/2011 22:27

I was on the park today, it was awful. I saw a grossly fat man eating a burger, a woman drinking coffee out of a flask, another woman eating a bar of chocolate. And the worst thing was when a man sat down next to me and tried to start a conversation. He had been eating Garlic, FGS. Ban EVERYBODY. Then us smokers can have a chuff in peaceGrin

PiousPrat · 28/04/2011 22:34

NickR If you throw in a woman breast feeding while having a punch up with a bottle feeder, you may have achieved some sort of MN bingo full house!

MmaIvvy · 28/04/2011 22:36

... of course they would all be parked in the mother and baby spaces with no kids in tow Grin

Salmotrutta · 28/04/2011 22:41

Second hand smoking is more damaging than smoking. - can't remember who posted this but it's utter crap. And I defy whoever posted it to prove that it's not utter crap.
Peer reviewed research please!

Utter bollocks.

Oh - and I'm off to my garden to have a fag. I just hope catnao's hideously self-righteous parent from school isn't leering over my fence.

PiousPrat · 28/04/2011 22:48

She isn't, but I am. I like a good leer, I do Wink

catnao · 28/04/2011 22:48

Night kids. just put 6 kids to bed, and now going out for a fag. CXX

catnao · 28/04/2011 22:50

I wear a size eight - let's talk obesity! ;0 ) Ok? Joke?

Salmotrutta · 28/04/2011 22:53
catnao · 28/04/2011 22:54

I smoke. I have one child. I wear a dress size 8-10. I go to the gym twice a week. I am on the PTA and I work full time. I do 25 hours charity work. I smoke. Hate me/Those cigs really make my charity work null and void, no?

Salmotrutta · 28/04/2011 22:55
Salmotrutta · 28/04/2011 22:59

Ah but surely all the nay-sayers who denounce fags are size 6 tee-totallers who don't spray crappy chemicals around and never BBQ.
They surely know that BBQ'd meat contains exactly the same carcinogenic PAHs (polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons) as cigarette smoke because they will obviously have read the literature.

bethelbeth · 28/04/2011 23:38

I am not a non smoking nazi but this really gets my goat. Anyone with manners would know not to.

Unfortunately I live in Glasgow. I actually avoid the parks during holiday weekends because of all the scummy mummies. Freaks me out.

PiousPrat · 28/04/2011 23:44

Catnao How could you? The GYM? Oh and I thought we were bonding here. I'm usually a 6 but currently an 8-10 due to spawning a mini me, I love a good BBQ but never do them myself because I am too lazy to clean the grill, don't drive, do voluntary work in the community but I think the gym is the work of Satan. I have never found anything there that I would actually use that I can't do cheaper/more comfortably at home or out and about so begrudge the membership fee.

Does this mean I should still be damned? I am so confused.

worraliberty · 28/04/2011 23:51

Can someone just give me an honest answer to this please?

If a smoker lit up in an open air kids playground...was careful how they held it so no kids ran into it...disposed of the cigarette end in a bin after putting it out...

Would anyone still have a problem? If so, why?

LDNmummy · 28/04/2011 23:52

"I dont want to breathe in other peoples perfume, body odour, stinking food that they are scoffing as they walk along, but it happens."

Yes but ultimately smoking is damaging to health, whuch is far more debtremental than smelling a bit of body odour. I think you fail to grasp that that point makes your argument null and void.

PiousPrat · 28/04/2011 23:56

Depends where they were TBH Worra. If they were out of the way so scampering children weren't likely to run through their smoke, then fine by me, so long as they are considerate in the ways you describe. If they were pushing their kid on the swing, or standing right by them on the monkey bars, then I would be peeved and if their smoke was going over my kids when they were playing, I would ask them to please move or put it out.

I tend to assume that no one else wants to be near my dirty habit, so skulk off into corners after checking which way the wind blows if I want to light up, so I suppose I would expect the same of others really.

But then I am biased as I am a smoker, so I guess you were looking for responses from the non-smoker ban-it-brigade.

trixymalixy · 28/04/2011 23:58

YANBU. Anyone that lights up anywhere near kids is a selfish twat.

worraliberty · 29/04/2011 00:02

That's what I was wondering Pious the smoke isn't likely to do any damage whatsover...a brief puff of smoke in the wide open air is what it is.

I just think that perhaps people are becoming a little too extreme in a way.

You know like, even Mums who are shit scared to let someone hold their baby because they've smoked a fag an hour ago and washed their hands...but the smell is still on their clothes.

I think people are either becoming confused about what really poses a health threat and what actually doesn't.

GreenEyesandHam · 29/04/2011 00:09

I think smokers get a bad rap in general. I have no problem with beer gardens/ smoking outside public buildings/ smoking in own homes etc etc.

But I'm actually glad that smoking in certain areas is starting to be judged as a bad thing

Because I'm hoping that all you smokers will eventually die out (in the nicest possible way).

Yes, you can talk about taxes. Yes, talk about BBQ's and 4x4's and everything else. Does anyone really think that encouraging smoking for future generations is a GOOD THING?

It's not, and IMO anything that makes it more awkward, more difficult, and more socially 'unacceptable' is ok.

trixymalixy · 29/04/2011 00:15

It's bloody disgusting though when you're out enjoying the fresh air and you suddenly get a lungful of smoke.

Might not have s detrimental effect on your health but certainly ruins your enjoyment of being outside.

Given the statistics that it is estimated that 1 in 2 smokers will die from a smoking related illness, I can't believe that intelligent people in this day and age still smoke.

worraliberty · 29/04/2011 00:15

I actually agree with you 100% there Greeneyesandham

But I do feel sorry for some young parents who seem genuinely stressed and afraid of the smell of smoke on say a Grandparent's clothing. It's so sad to see such genuine fear being blown out of proportion.

trixymalixy · 29/04/2011 00:17

I don't think you smokers realise how bad you smell to non smokers.

dadsgetshitaswell · 29/04/2011 00:22

what complete and load of rubbish you lot get so wound up about...I only joined this site to address such trash...this is a typical example as a scientist I can tell you that the most toxic things in the atmosphere are dioxins and every year you get your kids to surround the bonfire which is the biggest output of dioxins ...time you all woke up

trixymalixy · 29/04/2011 00:27

Err no actually I don't, dadsgetshitaswell, my son has asthma , so I don't take him to stand round a bonfire or a BBQ and prefer him not to inhale any amount of cigarette smoke in a playground no matter how brief.