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David Cameron tells Angela Eagle to "calm down dear" at PMQ

714 replies

Bennifer · 27/04/2011 13:25

I posted this in feminism but think this is appalling, if true.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13211577

OP posts:
WhereYouLeftIt · 27/04/2011 16:12

Have now watched it. My god does that man look like a used car salesman or what? Patronising git.

Swedes2 · 27/04/2011 16:13

I've watched the clip. Labour are like Drogba appealing for a penalty when he's dived after a very fine tackle from his opponent.

Imps7 · 27/04/2011 16:15

Was Angela offended?

JoanofArgos · 27/04/2011 16:15

Gerard. Take a chill pill and stop being a wanker.

Blackduck · 27/04/2011 16:16

She said she had been patronised by better men than him.....

GerardButler · 27/04/2011 16:16

'Noooooooooooooo, because there is LITERALLY NOTHING ELSE to criticise them for.

Apart from, er, let's see

  • The NHS
  • Cuts
  • tuition fees
  • Causing another recession
  • General incompetence
  • Blinding arrogance
  • Ignorance of some of the simple facts about a common law legal system such as the concepts of "case law" and judicial interpretation of statute
  • Sexism
  • Generally being evil Tory twats'
What an utterely ridiculous post made by somebody who clearly knows nothing about politics at all.

-They havnt made the changes to the NHS yet
-The cuts are being made because of Labour, and Labour would be doing the same if in power.
-Tutition fees were introuded under Labour, and still nobody pays a penny unfront.
-LOL, where is this new recession you speak of? Did you not see the GROWTH figures today?
-General imcompetence? Much like your post?
-Blinding arrogance? Much like your post?
-Generally being evil Tory Twats? That just about sums up you and your post.

Please educate yourself on the matters you re trying to talk about, because you look like a fool.

Awful post.

LadyClariceCannockMonty · 27/04/2011 16:17

It might be a 'tiny nothing comment' if it hadn't been made by our country's leader, in public, to roaring and cheers from his mates.

But actually, even 'tiny' comments all add up and are all symptomatic of how women are not so subtly put down, again and again. Just like every time a man tells a woman in the street to 'cheer up, love' or a man honks his horn and makes an obscene gesture or comment, or a woman is accused of having no sense of humour for not laughing at occurrences like these.

I am a feminist and proud of it. And if that makes me humourless, well I think people who know me would disagree, but so be it.

Imps7 · 27/04/2011 16:17

Thanks Blackduck.

JoanofArgos · 27/04/2011 16:17

Whether Angela Eagle was offended is personal to her, and not even the main issue. The issue is that Cameron thinks it is perfectly ok to use a sexist put-down to make silly women shut up.

QuelleLeJeff · 27/04/2011 16:19

Why are the people who don't find this remark offensive getting so worked up? Shouting and throwing insults about, calling feminists people who wear cardigans made out of their own hair and stuff?

How odd. Confused

forkful · 27/04/2011 16:19

Welcome to MN GerardButler. Wink

mosschops30 · 27/04/2011 16:19

Here here gerard! Soooo bored of the fake outrage crew, i posted something similar last night, how do these people survive day to day life

Swedes2 · 27/04/2011 16:20

It was pure Flashman (and Cameron should try to curb that) but it wasn't sexist in any way.

mosschops30 · 27/04/2011 16:20

Dont you steal the 'making cardigans out of your own hair' line, thats mine Grin

QuelleLeJeff · 27/04/2011 16:20

"these people"?

seriously? WTF is going on? you don't find it offenseive, that's fine..great..why on Earth are you being so rude?

JoanofArgos · 27/04/2011 16:21

gerard

-They havnt made the changes to the NHS yet
-The cuts are being made because of Labour, and Labour would be doing the same if in power. causality debatable, certainly very much doubt that Labour would be cutting surestart, school building projects, the Connexions service, Sports Partnerships.......
-Tutition fees were introuded under Labour, and still nobody pays a penny unfront. yes but they are now being trebled and the interest hugely hiked up, so that women who take time off to have children will very much bear the brunt
-LOL, where is this new recession you speak of? Did you not see the GROWTH figures today? um, I think 'flat-lining' was the phrase used.
-General imcompetence? Much like your post?
-Blinding arrogance? Much like your post?
-Generally being evil Tory Twats? That just about sums up you and your post.
your final three rebuttals are even lamer than your overall tone. How is the poster an evil Tory twat? Even your syntax is thick

ReshapeWhileDamp · 27/04/2011 16:21

Watching Clegg trying to keep his face neutral was painful. I almost feel sorry for him, sometimes.

YANBU. Obviously.

JoanofArgos · 27/04/2011 16:23

lolz where is UR recession? I am in ur schoolz makin u redundant lolz. I can has my wisteria cleaned now plz?

forkful · 27/04/2011 16:25

derail alert re Gerard - perfectly possible to find the remark sexist regardless of political leaning!

Many women will find it sexist and some enlightened men will.

Gerard - are you a man sent by #10 ?

Becaroooo · 27/04/2011 16:25

I would love a man to say that to me. Seriously.

I would be picking bits of him from my teeth for days daaaarling.

Patronising fuckers.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 27/04/2011 16:25

JoanofArgos said, "It is a remark specifically to put women in their place and make them feel stupid - like, I have to admit, when Prescott accused the French politician whose name I can't remember of being 'tired and emotional'. If you said it to men, it's intended offence would lie in the fact that it attributes a sort of hysteria and emotionalism to them which is generally thought of as womanly."

"tired and emotional is a well-know euphemism for "drunk", and is not sexist regardless of who says it, or who it is said about.

JoanofArgos · 27/04/2011 16:26

I dispute that, Oldladywithstrikinglyaptusername

LDNmummy · 27/04/2011 16:27

"Teenagers are always telling each other to 'calm down, dear'. I think you've all missed the point and Cameron was in fact hugging hoodies."

Really!!??

And pray tell me what teenagers or 'hoodies' do you know that say this to each other?

Becaroooo · 27/04/2011 16:29

gerard I am not a labour supporter (I voted lib dem...yes I know) and I actually could make cardigans from my own hair as it appears to be falling out in an alarming fashion.

Anyone for a badly knitted cardi made with my dyed brown hair???

(and surely, as I am a rampant feminist, it should be a kaftan not a cardi daaaarling???)

Lilmeena · 27/04/2011 16:29

Lol at faux outrage - so true.

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