To wonder why MN's so concerned with class

[ivykaty44]

Is it envy, is that what it boils down to pure envy of someone else and they might be doing better.

Even the cycling threads end up with class being brought into the mix.

Why is class brought into so many thread - even this one!

TOWIE is on tonight at 10.00pm and then on Wednesday evenings too. I warn you tho...you could get hooked!

Strikes me that lequeen really wants to be MC, in fact upper MC, but is struggling to overcome her prole roots.

Just give into it LeQ. Eat chips and gravy, watch eastenders and put on a tracksuit. You'll be much happier.

Chips. Dreadful things.

My house on a council estate is filled with books ..

alistron But that just doesn't make sense. You're middle-class - get rid of the chips - or the books.

Did anyone else have encyclopaedia sets? We had britannica and another set Ive forgotten the name of.

I'm so MC (generations of university educated professionals and senior civil servants on both sides) that I can throw my books out with impunity when they are a bit tired

I think it's a British thing not an MN thing. There is class in other countries, but it's not so ... dependent on great great great grandparents. In my country if you've done well for yourself, that's applauded. It's seen as admirable. It's not seen as social climbing. It is taken as red that all people want to do well but there are obstacles and it's not always possible. There is snobbery and class in ireland too mind you, but it matters very little what your grandparents did! that sounds so proposterous outside of Britain, that what your grandparents and great grandparents did might be held against you.

I think subconsciously we all like to be able to categorise others so we know what to expect, and ourselves so we feel we fit somewhere, have an identity.

Tis nowt to do with money. We have none at the mo due to babies and retraining, but are still thoroughly, boringly middle class. The right schools, universities, area, accents, activities, holidays etc. Not because we feel we should, but because it is just what we 'do'. We still go yachting in our spare time despite not having any money for example...yet fit in at the yacht club.

I do feel like a dull cliche sometimes though, which probably explains my temporary late teens flirtation with nose piercings etc (long gone now)...an attempt to be someone other than who I was born and raised ro be.

IVykaty44, you ask some interesting questions I think. I have wondered why the culture on this UK forum is that class is mentioned so often. IN contrast, on an Irish board I visit, it is never mentioned. It is totally taboo to mention it. It's not as if Ireland is a classless society!

I don't feel anything anymore. I truly feel classless. Exempt from classification. Considered one class in one country, considered another in a different country.

The overwhelming majority of posters on MN are VERY middle class indeed (university educated, own own homes, well paid job (30K+), send children to private school/ballet etc, take foreign holidays, shop at Boden, posh weddings etc., etc., etc. Fine. Why they all have to deny it so vehemently I'll never know. It's like they're embarrassed

They don't deny it. They sort of stage whisper it in my opinion.

Hehe, well it makes for fun lurking!

usualsuspect Sun 17-Apr-11 18:33:59
My house on a council estate is filled with books

Erm...she didn'tmean benefit books. Jeez.

Alpinepony I have a brummy accent, like lager and adore chips and gravy. I can never be middle class. The brummy accent instantly precludes any social mobility.

LeQueen

You just SOooooooooo posh Btw, whats Tuscany like? have you ever been clubbing to Ibiza?

It really doesn't matter what difines class - chips and gravy or books on shelves does it, whether your house is crumbling or made of sturdie walls and flimsly gates.

Why does it matter, we are who we are not who are parents where or who are chidlren will be and what we do we should do to enjoy not be worrying whether we have chips and mustard makes us underdogs in some way

alistron1

Hehe. That made me smile.

Einsteinnolonger

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Instead of typing 'social mobility' I should have written 'sowcial mowbilitieee' in order to give my witterings cultural context. Bab.

Tis interesting, I had no idea what obvious defining cultural traits my parents and grandparents etc had until I read these class threads mn.

I really have no idea what class I am.

'I really have no idea what class I am'

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