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to object to terms such as manageress or authoress?

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MaundyBra · 13/04/2011 17:21

It was mentioned on another thread but was really a side issue, so I've started another one.

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StewieGriffinsMom · 15/04/2011 12:32

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stubbornhubby · 15/04/2011 12:51

bemybebe I think we are on the same page : in media circles people want to treat actors with respect (after all they are the top of the media pyramid). Hence as you say, 'actress' is not acceptable in professional media circles.

But outside the media world, for the man/women on the street female actors are NOT held in universal respect. that's why, out in the wider world, we still hear them referred to as 'actresses'.

LadyOfTheManor · 15/04/2011 12:58

Surely a job title is in fact a job title and it doesn't matter which gender has the job they should then inherit the title? Then again, if women hate the "ess" does that mean they are willing to share what is traditionally a "mans'" title?

bemybebe · 15/04/2011 13:00

SGM, what I tried to say (and failed) is that the wider UK public has not yet adopted "actor" term for female actors, which is so much a norm in professional circles.

WinterOfOurDiscountTents · 15/04/2011 13:11

Its not a mans title though, thats the point. Manager doesn't mean man, we don't need a seperate one for Lady-Manager.

LadyOfTheManor · 15/04/2011 13:18

Which is why I said traditional.

For e.g policeMAN was well used before police officer, likewise for host/hostess etc

LadyOfTheManor · 15/04/2011 13:19

My point being why don't ALL the titles ALL become the "female equiv" like hostess and actress and manageress etc

bemybebe · 15/04/2011 13:23

LotM "why don't ALL the titles ALL become the "female equiv" like hostess and actress and manageress etc"

Because "between the legs anatomy" is not relevant to person acting in the professional capacity. Unless "hostess" is a euphemism for providing services, where it does matter.

mollymole · 15/04/2011 13:42

i don't give a shit - far more important things to think about

WinterOfOurDiscountTents · 15/04/2011 13:45

then what the fuck are you doing posting about it then, go worry about world peace or something. Hmm

bemybebe · 15/04/2011 13:57

hehehehe

bemybebe · 15/04/2011 14:00

LotM

"Because "between the legs anatomy" is not relevant to person acting in the professional capacity. Unless "hostess" is a euphemism for providing services, where it does matter."

I will also add, so that you understand. Oscar ceremony HOST even if female, a HOSTESS is in a seedy mens' club in downtown Moscow.

Lucifera · 15/04/2011 14:06

apols if someone's already said this, haven't got time to read the whole thread, but how about the expressions "male nurse" and "male model" - that effin' annoys me too.

GabbyLoggon · 15/04/2011 14:21

Many titles are snobbery laden. I would not think Actress and and actor
are that way inclined.

You need to keep the genders seperate especially when using a -publlic
toilet

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