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to prefer 'What'? to 'Pardon?'

156 replies

wolfhound · 12/04/2011 10:55

although neither of them are very good. 'Pardon?' sounds a bit Hyacinth Bucket IMO, and 'What?' can sound rude.
What do you teach your DCs to say?
DS1 (3.5) seems to have adopted his own style of bellowing 'Can you say that a bit louder?' which may not be the ideal long term style.

OP posts:
dearyme · 12/04/2011 10:56

depends who you are talking to

pardon to the boss

you what? to the husband

borderslass · 12/04/2011 10:57

pardon

KatishaVinganegg · 12/04/2011 10:58

I know "what" is U and "pardon" is non-U but both sound wrong, I agree.

How about "sorry?"

GloriaSmut · 12/04/2011 10:59

YANBU. "Pardon" is a poncenonsense way of saying "What" - almost always used in the mistaken belief that it is more polite and "refained".

GreenEyesandHam · 12/04/2011 10:59

Nooooooooooo, I hate 'what?'

I'm still struggling to get the message through to the children though, I seem to bellow

'THE WORD YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS PARDON!'

a hundred times a day

YouaretooniceNOT · 12/04/2011 10:59

Sorry could you repeat that please? I didn't quite hear..

GreenEyesandHam · 12/04/2011 11:00

'What?' sounds really dumb

KatishaVinganegg · 12/04/2011 11:01

What is to lavatory as pardon is to toilet.

GloriaSmut · 12/04/2011 11:03

...and sitting room is to lounge. Oh fuck. Don't get me started on this route to nowhere...

MrsCarriePooter · 12/04/2011 11:03

I'd much rather my children said "pardon?" than "what?" - we're not in the 50s, we're not upper class and nor should we pretend to be. If we're going to get all snobby about it, they already say "toilet", "ice cream", "mirror", "glasses" and "fireplace" and and the sky hasn't fallen on us yet.

Having said all that, I usually say "sorry?" in any case.

StigoftheBump · 12/04/2011 11:03

Wouldn't mind "what" if it did actually end with an audible "t", and wasn't accompanied by a slack jaw and glazed look...

GreenEyesandHam · 12/04/2011 11:05

StigoftheBump you've met my children then :o

MissRead · 12/04/2011 11:07

I'm intrigued to know what the 'posh' equivalents of ice cream and fireplace are - dead common, me!

I'm not fond of either what or pardon - pardon sounds pretentious and what sounds rude. I usually go for sorry or something along those lines.

nickelbaalamb · 12/04/2011 11:08

I will be teaching What? because Pardon? just sounds wrong.

I have to admit, I wasn't taught either when I was a child (common as muck! Grin )
and I think I might have shocked my Junior Chorister the other week when he said "eh?" and I said "it's not Eh?, it's What?" in front of other people who may have been taught differently (including his mum, who had said Pardon? to him earlier in the session Blush )

MrsCarriePooter · 12/04/2011 11:09

"Ice" and "chimneypiece", MissRead.

Quattrocento · 12/04/2011 11:10

Agree with Katisha

And with Stig - 'Wha ... ?' with glottal stop sounds horrible.

nickelbaalamb · 12/04/2011 11:10

Pardon implies that it's your fault you haven't heard, when invariably, it's becausethe person who is speaking to you hasn't made themselves heard/understandable.

It is never the hearer's fault that they didn't hear or understand, and always the person speaking.

GloriaSmut · 12/04/2011 11:10

Please let us not pass the "serviettes" around. Especially if one has had hot cross buns for breakfast...

BringBackGoingForGold · 12/04/2011 11:12

I prefer what, for the Hyacinth Bucket reasons mentioned above. Hate 'sorry?', although I sometimes involuntarily come out with it (I think I must have been taught it in childhood, although I don't remember, and it still lurks in my subconscious.

I don't mind 'say again?'. Thoughts?

nijinsky · 12/04/2011 11:13

As well as being more U, "what" is from Old English and more Germanic, while "pardon" is from Norman French. Just a thought.

dontcallmepeanut · 12/04/2011 11:15

I use either "pardon", or "sorry"...
DS (3.3) will say "what", remember what he's supposed to say and say "pardon"...
And he corrected some chav the other day, who responded to some girl in the shop with "what?" He seemed quite alarmed and embarrassed to her some 3 year old tell him "It's not what, It's 'Cardon'*"
*Cardon is DS's mispronounciation...

CurrySpice · 12/04/2011 11:15

Eh?

wolfhound · 12/04/2011 11:15

Yes, I think I tend to say 'Sorry?' Not sure it's ideal for young children though, as they don't get the intonation right and it's not clear what they mean. Hmm. Perhaps will continue leaving it to DS to work out his own method...

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BerryLellow · 12/04/2011 11:17

'what' really grates on me, DS1 does it a lot, and although I'm not that fond of 'pardon' it does sound a bit more polite.

exoticfruits · 12/04/2011 11:22

I don't care if it is U or non U-what sounds rude.