To think it will all kick off on here after this is aired?

[MsScarlett]

My mum just texted me to say that tomorrow there is a documentary on BBC3 at 9pm called, "Is Breast Best?".

I predict a bunfight!

Yes, they are adorable Leonie . I will most definitely send them some mac 'n' cheese. :)

I didn't push either of mine out either LD - forceps with the first and

Actually trisk no they weren't laughed out of court. The judge just stared at me over her glasses the whole time. It was very intimidating. In her judgement the words that stand out to me are ' there was some criticism of but I am sure she is not that bad' Hardly a throwing out of their claims and a vindication of me.

His lawyer has a reputation, the local woman's aid will refer noone to that firm and refer to her as 'that bastard'

Leather and giveitago - I am completely aghast at the awful pressure you were both under not to feed! I really don't get why they did that to you! How insane and ignorant and cruel! What on earth were their reasons?! You poor ladies having to deal with such stupid pressure - how insane!

Hope you both ok now x

I absolutely don't assume that xstitch! I was trying to clarify that.

I am surprised to hear that there is judgement against c sections out there - I am all for natural birth but it is not always possible or best so am surprised that some people feel they can judge this! Weird.

I was a c sec baby and don't remember a thing!

I don't remember either hairful my mum has the same malformation as me.

bf/ff is one thing to debate but i am always shocked about this c sections make you inferior as a mother game. it is surely the most stinking bs ever

i have never given birth vaginally,and someone opined it was "a shame i wasnt a proper mum..was i disappointed"

thing is she meant it,was serious in her sentiment

I'm very proud of my ELCS Very proud indeed.

Less so the forceps shennanigans.

'they birthed her up onto my chest'

I'd like that, I hope they do that around here.

Well I can only ask.

Seriously you all need to get a life.

How horrible to slag each other off for things which aren't even within our control, and even if they are why bitch ar each other over choices?! Surely this is what we wanted?! Choice, yet it's now used as a weapon of superiority?!

Mumsnet masquerades as a middle class meeting place for like minded mums.

All it is to me is a middle class Jeremy Kyle.

Not everyone is slagging people off for their choices. I haven't for one.

Oh and I don't have a 'life', I don't deserve one.

Xstitch you sound like a petulant teen.

Wonder how a mother from a third world country would feel reading thus thread. No choice, no pain relief, just hope the baby is born alive and healthy and sometimes breastfeeding the only option even when the mother is infected with HIV.

Ladies, our choices are our luxouries.

No unsure I am not a petulant teen just a fucked up ignorant little pathetic excuse for a human being.

No choice Exactly, ones with problems just die. You not read the recent article on BBC news when a british MW when to Africa?

xstitch Hide this thread NOW

unsurevalentine - you are insulting someone who's quite obviously suffering from serious depression - a point which has already been made, so you've no excuse for not even considering it.

What else do you do, go up to people with broken legs and mock them for being unable to run? Disgraceful.

xstitch I thought of you when I woke up this morning. You need help and support, my love. As well as calling some sort of telephone helpline today, I would consider a complaint to the Law Society about the solicitor. Ask on the legal board whether that's possible. I know they have to represent their client's views, but colluding in abuse is another matter entirely. What did the judge say?

I suspect the reason you won't get help for your depression is that you're worried your XH will somehow find out and use it against you. But you are ill, and you won't be able to hide it. Your best option is to treat it, or you are playing right into his hands. I know you're pregnant but at very least you need to start talking therapy, even if it's just on the phone.

Put your plans for skin-to-skin post-birth into your birth plan, and say you intend to breastfeed.

Xstitch are you pg? If so congratulations! If you ever need any help/support if you plan to bf we are all here ok? X

Longtall - unsurevalentine - you are insulting someone who's quite obviously suffering from serious depression - a point which has already been made, so you've no excuse for not even considering it.
What else do you do, go up to people with broken legs and mock them for being unable to run? Disgraceful.

This coming from someone who made a comment about me on the Nazi thread ranting about something I didn't say...and using pretty foul language...yet here you are, all compassion! Yeah right!