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to be really f*cking p*ssed off with my neighbour for this?

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DaydreamDollyisshrinking · 09/04/2011 19:45

We bought DD a trampoline (8ft) this week for the garden, and she absolutely loves it, it's so sweet, she wants to be on it constantly, and since we bought it, our garden has been full of giggles all day long as we all lark about on it.
The neighbour who's garden backs onto ours (their house is sideways on to ours, so the side of their house over looks our garden) is currently having a loft extension, with a large window on the side that is looking directly into our garden. She stopped my husband this morning, as he was bouncing with DD, and asked him to move the trampoline. She is upset as if adults bounce on it, we can see directly into her garden, and she can see it from her garden and it's a bit of an eye sore.
WTF???!!! We have said NOTHING about the fact they are putting a big fuck off window over looking our garden, we have said NOTHING about the fact that we should have had notification from the council about it with the option to complain about the plans, we have said NOTHING about the fact that their ugly loft conversion will block out the afternoon sun from our garden - because that's just life when you live in a street like this isn't it?
Am so angry that she has the audacity to ask us to move our fucking trampoline cos she doesn't like the look of it. And I'm sorry darling but I'm not that desperate to see into your garden.
So angry.
AIBU to be this p*ssed off??! My DD loves this trampoline so much and now I feel awkward going on there with her.

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DaydreamDollyisshrinking · 11/04/2011 20:35

Thanks so much Marjori - that's really really helpful I appreciate you taking the time to advise me on this.
Ok, I have searched and it says this - please translate!

Details: Lawful Development Certificate: Whether planning permission is required for a proposed hip to gable roof extension and rear dormer

Status: Final decision

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DaydreamDollyisshrinking · 11/04/2011 20:37

Oh under decision details it says 'Grant Lawful Development Certificate - proposed use'

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DaydreamDollyisshrinking · 11/04/2011 20:48

Ok have looked further and found this
SIDE WINDOWS - PERMITTED DEVELOPMENT Any upper floor window located in a wall or roof slope forming a side elevation of the dwellinghouse shall be- (i) obscure-glazed, and (ii) non-opening unless the parts of the windows which can be opened are more than 1.7m above the floor of the room in which the window is installed.
So I guess there's my answer! If the window is obscure glazed that's fine (window not in yet) so I shall be watching it like a hawk when it goes in!

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MissMarjoribanks · 11/04/2011 21:26

A Lawful Development Certificate is an application to the Council to establish whether a proposed use or development is lawful, i.e. doesn't need planning permission, for whatever reason. It is not a planning application, instead it is a legal determination. Neighbours are not consulted as it is purely a legal exercise. The merits of the development are not under consideration.

In this case the Council has granted the certificate as the loft conversion is permitted development - hip to gable conversions are and this was confirmed by the 2008 regs. They have always been a bit controversial though which is probably why your neighbour has applied for the LDC - you are not obliged to.

And yes, keep an eye on side windows.

DaydreamDollyisshrinking · 11/04/2011 21:30

Fab, thanks again

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HotCrossJins · 12/04/2011 20:27

I'm back MissMarjoribanks. Always nice to spot some planners as you say although it's a long time since I did domestic.

I would take some comfort in an application for an LDC. Generally people don't bother until they come to move and questions get asked about the legality of an extension. Perhaps they are planning on going :)

Tangoromeooscarlimalima · 12/04/2011 20:32

YABU because you could bounce through her window and have somebody's eye out.

digerd · 06/09/2012 14:52

My daughter's new neighbours 2-story extension planning permission permitted a window with clear see through glass on her side of her garden. She had to object in writing before they changed it to obscure glazing

TheLaineyWayIsEssex · 06/09/2012 14:54

this thread is from April 2011 ...

TantrumsAndGoldAndOrange · 06/09/2012 14:59

ZOMBIE THREAD.

TyrannoWearsGoldKnickers · 06/09/2012 15:03

Ooooh people like this annoy me!

Our next door neighbours built an extension on to the side of our house that stops a metre away from our kitchen window. It's blocked all natural light and our view now consits of a fence and the top of their back door, which is constantly open so I can see Mr NDN scratching his arse while he makes his toast in the morning. The kitchen's the only bit of the house we've 'done' and now it doesn't even feel it was worth it.

Like you, we never said a word to them about the fact that a) they didn't bother to warn us it would be happening even though at the time we had a new baby and they were building all hours of the day and night b) it blocks our light c) it shits on our view - because it was a permitted development, and I'd rather foster good relations with the neighbours than fall out over something petty.

A couple of months ago we put a fence up on our dwarf wall at the front (we're on a corner plot) to keep DS safe because he could climb over the wall and run into the road. The garden is next to NNs house and not visible to them at all unless they walk outside and look at it. None of their windows overlook it.

Mr NDN had the audacity to complain to DH that he thought it was ugly and he wished we hadn't done it. DH came in and told me and I MARCHED outside (I was in such a bad mood anyway, had just been told some bad news about my health) and LAUNCHED at him. I told him I fucking hated his fucking extension, I thought that was fucking ugly, it's shat all over our view, it's stolen all our light, but we've had the courtesy to keep this to ourselves. I then told him he could stick his opinions about our fence up his arse, fuck you very much, and went slamming back into the house.

A couple of days later he apologised to DH and said it was none of his business and he should have kept his mouth shut. We are now tentatively saying hello over the fence again. I think I scared him! Grin

Try swearing alot and waving your arms around with your NDN. Even if it doesn't solve it, you will feel better!

TyrannoWearsGoldKnickers · 06/09/2012 15:04

Oh fuck zombie thread!

Oh I don't care, felt good to get that out anyway!

cocolepew · 06/09/2012 15:11

I want to know what happened about the extension now...

Good for you Tyranno, thats the sort of thing I do Blush

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MAYBELATERNOWIMBUSY · 07/09/2012 14:32

total "bampots"

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