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to be really f*cking p*ssed off with my neighbour for this?

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DaydreamDollyisshrinking · 09/04/2011 19:45

We bought DD a trampoline (8ft) this week for the garden, and she absolutely loves it, it's so sweet, she wants to be on it constantly, and since we bought it, our garden has been full of giggles all day long as we all lark about on it.
The neighbour who's garden backs onto ours (their house is sideways on to ours, so the side of their house over looks our garden) is currently having a loft extension, with a large window on the side that is looking directly into our garden. She stopped my husband this morning, as he was bouncing with DD, and asked him to move the trampoline. She is upset as if adults bounce on it, we can see directly into her garden, and she can see it from her garden and it's a bit of an eye sore.
WTF???!!! We have said NOTHING about the fact they are putting a big fuck off window over looking our garden, we have said NOTHING about the fact that we should have had notification from the council about it with the option to complain about the plans, we have said NOTHING about the fact that their ugly loft conversion will block out the afternoon sun from our garden - because that's just life when you live in a street like this isn't it?
Am so angry that she has the audacity to ask us to move our fucking trampoline cos she doesn't like the look of it. And I'm sorry darling but I'm not that desperate to see into your garden.
So angry.
AIBU to be this p*ssed off??! My DD loves this trampoline so much and now I feel awkward going on there with her.

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thefirstMrsDeVere · 09/04/2011 21:19

In preperation for the arrival of the garden tardis I was cutting back the bamboo (seemed like a good idea when I planted the bastard). I found 6, yes 6 tardises (tardi) and 3 sonic screwdrivers, one ood, a sarah jane and three mini david tennants (if only - sigh).

God knows how many darleks are out there.

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DaydreamDollyisshrinking · 09/04/2011 21:21

I couldn't do that to someone, make them have their extension pulled down... I just think people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. They can throw sausages though Grin

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QOD · 09/04/2011 21:22

I love it! We get pissed off as our neighbour huffs a bit when DD goes on the trampoline with friends - but she has a pretty big garden, and where does she sit and chat to friends?
Yes.... up against our fence. THAT is intrusive when she has a wrap around garden.
The play house on stilts went today booooooo hisssssssssssssss but some other kids will get some fun from it

We also have a double swing and have heard neighbours the other side (well end of the garden) hiss at each other ........ again - why sit against our fence? We have a short wide garden - then have long narrow - well fuck the fuck off away from my little bit (hmmmm5 fence panels?) that runs along yours!! (the way the houses were built in the 60's their garage is in our garden! losing loads of space...... grrrr)

hairylights · 09/04/2011 21:25

I think she entitled to ask for it to be moved if her privacy is invaded a lot. I can also understand how annoying it can be ... Noise wise having lots of children plating loudly for a long time can be really annoying if you like peace and quiet.

RueLaChesty · 09/04/2011 21:26

but you could find out Daydream just for any future disagreements, although if she doesn't have planning permission chances are she won't have a building warrant (which she probably doesn't if she has the window) so she won't be able to sell her house and if found out she will ne fined and made to pay to take extension down and restore house to previous state!

flyinstar · 09/04/2011 21:27

get two blow up dolls,with the blow job mouths,hang them on the top of the trampoline netting facing directly into her garden....would bet her face matched the dolls...Grin

YouaretooniceNOT · 09/04/2011 21:29

flyinstar that has cheered me up a little hahaha

thefirstMrsDeVere · 09/04/2011 21:30
Shock
thefirstMrsDeVere · 09/04/2011 21:30

That was my impression of one of them dolls

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DaydreamDollyisshrinking · 09/04/2011 21:30

hairylights I agree, but this was the first time we had bounced on it, in the position it is in now (against our back fence) and we only have 1 child. She is a bit noisy though Smile

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IlanaK · 09/04/2011 21:30

We had this. Whe we moved into this flat with it's enormous garden we had it totally landscaped and put a bark chip area at the rear with a large trampoline. The neighbour whose house backs side onto our garden walked through the gap in the fence (we were still in the process of having the fencing done) to complain about it. He wanted it moved to the front of the garden nearer to our house. I poitely said no. It is our garden and our decision where we put things. Or kids are only on in between the hours of 9 and 6 (not for all that time obviously!)

TattyDevine · 09/04/2011 21:32

You are allowed windows in extensions that overlook someone's house - but only with planning permission, which involves a consultation period.

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DaydreamDollyisshrinking · 09/04/2011 21:34

flyinstar Grin Grin Grin

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thelittlestkiwi · 09/04/2011 21:47

You don't need to speak to the council to see if she has planning permission- our council puts applications online. So if she complains again you'd have good ammo....

zipzap · 09/04/2011 22:47

Tell her that you put it where you did precisely so that it would block their new big window from overlooking your garden so that thay wouldn't be able to watch you...

They have no comeback to that Grin

You could always offer to both compromise - you'll move the trampoline when they put frosted film over all their new windows that overlook your garden...

princessparty · 09/04/2011 22:59

Loft conversions can usually be done as a permitted development and don't need planning permission and therefore no need to notify neighbours.

MissMarjoribanks · 09/04/2011 23:16

Prize for the biggest load of bollocks I have read on MN tonight:

The problem is that if you had received notification you have a certain amount of time to make a complaint and there is nothing to prove receipt of the notification so a lot of people just don't send them Confused Hmm

The Council sends notification to neighbours, not the neighbour. However, this is only if an application for planning permission has been submitted and is required. If it doesn't require planning permission, neighbours won't be notified. You have 21 days or so so write and object to (or support) a planning application following notification.

If you think it should have permission phone the Council and they can confirm.

And yes, the Council do bother to send out notification. It's an essential part of the planning application process.

Inertia · 10/04/2011 08:52

Loft conversions often don't need planning permission but if your houses are attached they should have asked you to sign a party wall agreement.

Suzysnoozy · 10/04/2011 09:03

I don't know the size of the conversion and I'm not sure about building regulations but i'm planning on doing something similar to my house (not yet by the way so I don't know the exact details). I would have thought they needed planning permission for the conversion from the council, if they did a notice would have had to have been put up for everyone to see. If this is the case maybe you could argue with the council it wasn't in an obvious place to the neighbours it concerns. I would look into it if it is an eyesore.

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DaydreamDollyisshrinking · 10/04/2011 12:58

I don't think I really want to rock the boat with their extension to be honest, we all have to live fairly close together. And I assume they've spent a lot of money getting it done. It's still being done at the moment, so their house is covered in scaffolding - and my trampoline is an eye sore! Confused
Anyway, DH is away at the moment, and I can't bear the tension and possible further confrontations which I'd hate to happen in front of DD, so for now, I have moved it away from the fence so our heads aren't popping up over their garden fence anymore. I know DH will tell me off but I just want to have fun with DD and not feel uncomfortable if they're in their garden. Long term we'll have to re think, cos it's just making me feel awkward having it there now.
Thanks so much for all giving me a good laugh last night Grin

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minieggfan · 10/04/2011 13:27

Much as I think children should be able to play in a garden I would be really upset too if our neighbours installed a large trampoline and adults and children spent hours on it.

Your neighbours have the right to enjoy their garden in peace you know.

BringBackGoingForGold · 10/04/2011 13:46

My first and gut reaction is to tell her to fuck off. But I appreciate that might not do much for neighbourly relations. I do however think she seriously needs to get a life, and look closely at herself for signs of hypocrisy. I'd wait til DH gets back and then, when you've got his moral support, bring up the new window/council notification thing and see if she still feels that she's got a leg to stand on. If you live in a street with other people you have to accept a bit of a lack of privacy, FFS. And she certainly doesn't seem to give a dam about invading yours by overlooking your garden.

theidsalright · 10/04/2011 14:08

I know a couple who moved house due to next door kids having a trampoline and their being able to see into their garden when bouncing.
I kid you not.

The fact they moved seems to indicate that they realised it was THEIR problem and not the neighbours (with the trampoline) problem. They have moved to a field in the middle of nowhere.

Acekicker · 10/04/2011 15:10

YANBU and I'm now about to take some cakes around to our lovely neighbour who has 4 gardens onto hers (back to back council terrace thingies and on a corner) and has commented before how much it makes her smile when she has people bobbing up from all 4 sides at once...and the kids tend to talk across to each other on them too.

Surely it's give and take with gardens - she tolerates the great wall of trampolines, we don't chunter if her dogs bark for a bit etc. Ditto t'other neighbour puts up with shrieks etc from paddling pool in our garden and we don't mind when they sit outside getting shitfaced until 1am on the 3 warm nights of the year...

chocadoodle · 10/04/2011 15:27

Plant some massive leylandii at the end of your garden. When she comes round with a cats bum face about it you can politely tell her you planted it so she didn't have to look at your eyesore trampoline.

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