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AIBU?

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To object to people smoking in town/city centre?

171 replies

ilovemyhens · 29/03/2011 14:42

Busy, shopping, lots of people crowded together type of thing. Then, you're walking along and having to pass people who are standing having a fag outside stores or walking along the street smoking and you have to follow in their smokey wake Hmm

I used to smoke and can understand that people like a fag, but surely they can hang on till they reach somewhere less crowded before they light up.

It's also annoying for ds2 who is 6 to have to walk along and get a face full of smoke when we walk past because of people standing with cigs.

Am I turning into one of those annoying militant ex smokers, or am I reasonable to feel angry about this?

OP posts:
IQuiteLikeVodka · 29/03/2011 20:10

yes,exactly worraliberty and lets not forget all the pedophiles waiting to grab our kids at every opportunity

worraliberty · 29/03/2011 20:11

No, it can't be nice Sad

Sorry about the 'rubbish' thing...I just get frustrated at how OTT things have become these days. Some Mums for example would rather remove their own nipples with rusty spoons than put a few granules of sugar on a bit of Weetabix...that and the anti open air smokers kind of wind me up Blush

madhairday · 29/03/2011 20:14

Heheh now on the sugar thing I am totally with you. Sugar is Good. And weetabix vile without it Grin

Sirzy · 29/03/2011 20:14

The only reason I try to keep DS away from cigarette smoke is because it is a trigger for his asthma, but it is up to me to keep him away from it as much as possible not to expect others to not smoke where they legally can.

I do agree that there seems to be a lot of OTT views about things, DS loves a little bit of sugar on his weetabix ;)

maras2 · 29/03/2011 20:15

Genuine non ranty question.Where do nurses or any hospital workers who wear a uniform go for a crafty (and usualy a well deserved ) ciggie ? When I worked in a hospital there was a smoking room and when No Smoking policies came into force the smokers stood outside.Now this is not allowed on pain of dismissal.12 hours is a long time to go without a cigarette ,this was my average shift when I was working.I used to smoke about 20 a day in those days (1970's- 80's) I'm sure I wasn't the only one. Been smoke free for 3 years after a 40 year habit. Mx.

Underachieving · 29/03/2011 20:19

When I gave up smoking I decided I would never be one of those ghastly ex-smokers. Some of my freinds still smoke. I used to go outside into the porch for a fag when I smoked (non smoking partner) so I still expect smoking friends of mine to go out too, but I can still provide an ashtray and stand with them to continue the conversation. In fact I like to think the only thing I do significantly differently is that I don't light one up myself.

The militant anti-smoking brigade never did anything to encourage me to stop smoking in all the 12 years I did. In fact they just made me feel either miserable or defiant. Miserable people smoke more and defiant people blow smoke at you just to piss you off- totally counterproductive then.

It's common courtesy to try not to smoke around children or in the thick of a crowd but when you look around where you happen to be (the town centre for example) and there is nowhere as far as the eye can see that is not in the thick of a crowd what then? It's easy to say "don't smoke" but the stuff is officially more addictive than Heroin, you are effectively asking a junkie to stop injecting, it's just not realistic. Smokers can really suffer if they can't smoke. That's why so many smoke out of the windows on trains, they know there is a fine, they know it upsets everyone, they just can't stand it anymore. Making train stations non smoking only meant smoking on trains increased (ask train staff). Look at what happened when hospitals went to totally non-smoking grounds. Patients still smoke, but now they sneak off in the bushes where no one would notice if they blacked out, to do it. That's inhuman. Sick people shouldn't have to breathe unwanted smoke either, I do understand that, but would it be so hard to have a little bus stop style smoking shelter somewhere on the grounds with decent lighting and a roof for rainy weather and an ash tray? It'd clean up all the sneaky dog ends round the bushes overnight I am sure. Most smokers really don't want to upset you by having a sneaky one out of the door of A&E at 5.30am in the driving rain when no one is looking, they really don't, but what realistic choice are you giving them?

Making life really miserable for smokers and kicking them for doing what they have to do is not only conterproductive and ineffective it's cruel.

Smokers exist, like it or not, and they can't all be expected to just pack it in this very second because it's not convenient to the anti-smoking-brigade. That's just not realistic. Smokers pay enough tax to fund something like 14 new hospitals a year already, they can't smoke anywhere that is public indoors, hell they can't even legaly smoke in thier own cars if that car is arguably used for work. If they do smoke in thier own homes or cars they are branded as dangerously irresponsible if they ever give a lift to a child or invite one round, let alone what society says about smokers who have thier own kids.

The street is the last place you can legally smoke and the anti-smoking brigade have the temerity to whine about that- they are the ones that caused it to be that way! If there is a smoker in front of you walking along and you don't like it, then stop for 2 minutes and wait for goodness sakes. Just like you would if a stinky unwashed drunken person was in front of you. You probably wouldn't expect the alcoholic to be sober immediately however. You do expect the smoker to be miraclously cured though.

The entire anti-smoking brigade are totally unreasonable.

IQuiteLikeVodka · 29/03/2011 20:24

well said under..

sausagerollmodel · 29/03/2011 20:27

I hate this too. Unfortunately smokers are all pushed out in the street now because smoking is banned in workplaces, shops, cafes etc. But it's still legal so there's not much you can do about it. Is there a back route you can take that is less busy?

AmazingBouncingFerret · 29/03/2011 20:34

Underachieving... I think I love you for that post. Well said.

mosschops30 · 29/03/2011 20:42

Dont thik this thread needs to go any further after that fab post by under

Maybe we should save it somewhere for everytime one of these whinging threads comes up

LadyOfTheManor · 29/03/2011 20:43

Hear, hear Underachiever

spiderslegs · 29/03/2011 20:45

Under, wise & measured, I salute you.

Now, can we get back to bashing the sanctimonious cat's bum mouths please - 'tis preferential to sensible debate.

(apart from madhairday, I will, allow her clemency)

madhairday · 29/03/2011 20:52

Thankyou spiderlegs!

Actually, I also agree with under :) I am really quite nice.

expatinscotland · 29/03/2011 21:01

Only read the OP.

FFS.

Get a fucking life.

ChristinedePizan · 29/03/2011 21:08

I am definitely saving Underachieving's post for every single anti-smoking thread that comes up.

LoveLeonardCohen · 29/03/2011 21:10

YANBU....I hate walking in someones smoke waft. It's so selfish to people/children/babies walking behind to get it in the face. Then they throw all their butts on the ground. Just horrible....and all that guff about how much tax smokers generate. Rubbish....

LoveLeonardCohen · 29/03/2011 21:14

Underachieving - are we supposed to feel sorry for the poor underdog smokers, who have no where to smoke, who are treated cruelly by the anti-smoking brigade? Yes it's difficult to stop but it's possible

bigbeagleeyes · 29/03/2011 21:18

Just read this whole thread. So we can't smoke outside now.
I am a very considerate smoker but the only place I can go is 'outside'.
Where the hell else is there to go?
And I also gave up (18 months was the longest) and was determined not to be a rabid anti-smoker. In fact I used to go outside with my smoking friends to keep them company, as I missed the camaradie of standing in the pouring rain and wind trying to light up, and it tended to be better craic.

Ormirian · 29/03/2011 21:20

AIBU to object to all the intolerant people who can't put up with a smidgin of unpleasantness and inconvenience in order to accommodate fellow guan beings who are just muddling along same as them. And who are just as imperfect in their own way.

usualsuspect · 29/03/2011 21:22

I love sitting outside smoking ..nothing better than on my dinner break ,lighting a fag up outside work ..theres a lovely wide window sill to sit on Grin

howdidthishappenthen · 29/03/2011 21:22

I'm with sparkle. HATE it. Take your polluting, antisocical addition elsewhere pls.

worraliberty · 29/03/2011 21:24

Underachieving - are we supposed to feel sorry for the poor underdog smokers, who have no where to smoke, who are treated cruelly by the anti-smoking brigade? Yes it's difficult to stop but it's possible

No, just fuck off and leave them alone. I'm sure they'd prefer that than sympathy...

Stop the whingey friggin whining. Fag butts on the pavement? Your moaning would be best saved for the dollops of dog shit on the pavements.

usualsuspect · 29/03/2011 21:26

Take your whiney moaning elsewhere pls

spiderslegs · 29/03/2011 21:26

Jeysus LeonardCohen - the vile nuisances, would that we all lead blameless lives (& where did your namesake get that 'smoky' drawl from do you think? The fiend....)

LoveLeonardCohen · 29/03/2011 21:26

Smokers don't leave us alone though, we still have to put up with the smoke. Fag butts and dog shit, both disgusting.