They're coming into our country and they don't even have to register to claim benefits now

[bupcakesandcunting]

Not the words of me but of Alf Garnett my mother.

I feel that she has reached the pinnacle of twattery. AIBU to tell her to shut the fuck up with this? Honestly, it makes me so fucking angry, especially when it is punctuated with "I read it in the newspaper", like that makes it definitely true.

My great grandmother had to pay a fee tobe naturalised after she married a Latvian. Even though she was British. She didn't mind paying the fee but by all accounts she nearly went into orbit when she had to swear allegiance to the queen. She was very patriotic and took it as a personal insult.

carminaburana- perhaps put the needs of your family first but not their feelings and yes you can tell someone, even your own mother, that they are wrong, if they are spouting hatred and intolerance.

'blood is thicker than water' Means you should put the needs and feelings of your family before complete strangers'

So I should place my mother's "need" to be a racist over the needs of...who exactly? Whose needs am I putting before hers by challenging her wrong, wrong views? I will challenge racial intolerance whoever it comes from or else that just makes me a hypocrite if I accept it from family but not from strangers. I find your whole argument on this weird, to be honest.

oh yeah - and did I mention - when I came back t the UK, after 2 1/2yrs living and work abroad, having never paid a penny in UK tax - I was 4 months pregnant, so I launched staright into NHS useage, uncompliated pregnancy but then had a CS (they cost lots of money), and then DS1 was at the doctors regularly with chest infections................oops (oh and I'm on benefits now

with regards to blood being thicker than water, well I've come to the conclusion that most of my family either have water running round their veins, or very thin blood (or my closest friends have super thick blood)........

Prettybird - yes you may join the party as well. The only people that are excluded are ignorant bigots, racists, holier than thou types...........if you get my drift

Another forriner.

Like so many others, when I came to the UK I worked in the pre minimum wage, dead end job part of the economy. It's teeming with overqualified, bloody hard working people. The reasons the "immigrants are taking our jobs" is because none of the Brits will do them. To be honest, I never found it difficult to get work. I just had to be prepared to get up early, turn up on time and not piss about on the job. I had a job interview two days ago. They were stunned at the variety of jobs I had done, so I explained to them the reality of having no recourse to benefits. You just do whatever you can to keep body and soul together.

And like so many white immigrants, I agree, there's a lot of veiled racism out there. I'm not obviously an immigrant until I open my mouth.

Baroque can I join please.
My credentials:

I have been 'stolen' by Polish man (not Mr Sheen, too much facial hair).
Said Polish man has never claimed UK benefits
I have DS who is half Polish.

but...

I am (whispers) Welsh.

oooooo now smoz - Welsh, well I'll have to check to see if you're eligible I'll get back to you in a few years after I've made DS3 lunch

shmoz get out of this thread, stinking it right up with your leeks and kasanka

What if one relative has thicker blood than another? Do you have to stick a pin in them to find out whose needs to prioritise?

I'll bring some welsh cakes if that helps.

I am (whispers) Welsh.

That's worse. I hope you've had the decency to stay in Wales, where you belong.

oh okay then - just don't go stealing our men or jobs ok

Ooh I do love a welsh cake :)

Op; of course you challenge it - but you do it face to face in RL - what was the point of this thread? To get other people to join in the attack? And it's ironic in the extreme that in your attempt at love and understanding you want to tell your mum to STFU and think she's reached the pinnacle of twattery.
Where are you learning your love & tolerance from? Robert Mugabes 10 tips for a harmonious life?

sorry bupcakes - I finished them all

Walks in . . . Oh, another benefits thread . . . walks back out.

actually going back to the blood/water thing...........I much prefer water to blood anyhow

no no no expat - it's ok you can stay - come and join our pity party (tis actually an immigration thread not a benefits one )

carmina, as I said further up thread, I HAVE challenged directly and have tried to explain why she is wrong.

The point of this thread was to ask if I am BU to tell her to shut up when she starts spouting her hate-spew. I don't know if you missed that bit of my opening post?

I don't want "love and understanding" I'm not John bloody Lennon. Just a bit of regard for the truth would be nice. And since she is spouting this shit in front of my kid I think I am right to be pissed off with it.

Oh and yeah comparing me to a genocidal despot because I don't like racist chit-chat under my roof? Get some perspective, you strange person.

and carmina - stick this in your pipe and smoke it, I have ranted about all of my family on here. I had (maybe still have....) an informant following me on here, someone either in, or very close to my family that passes on what I say.

I DON'T CARE

Nope sorry I'm really really struggling with that one.

There is another side to the immigration issue but not the one Fabby thinks.

The vast majority of those working here illegally will have a British boss/gang master and the profits of their underpaid labour will probably be lining the pockets of British companies and individuals (witness the scandal in London of contract cleaners at the House of Commons not paid a living or even the minimum wage once agency fees are deducted. Our own Parliament colludes with this).

Plenty of British companies and people are happy to use immigration to try and drive down wages, health and safety standards and working conditions-I think some would be happier if this country treated its labour force the way they do in undemocratic third world countries.

Plenty of employers seem to be happy with a workforce they can insult, shout at and generally treat like dirt instead of British born and raised citizens who would be unlikely to tolerate it.

So if life is so hard for ordinary working people and unskilled jobs so scarce, why are the handmaidens of Nick Griffin so angry with immigrants and not the people who really brought this situation about and proft from it?

The only answer I can come up with is it is more important to some to be racist and have someone to hate and look down on than actually have to think and do something to bring about reform.

Stop hating and join a trade union.

I just watched that EDL video.

LOL @ the muslamic ray guns.

Robert Mugabe is well 2008.

Also, don't you think that bringing Robert Mugabe into this particular thread was a bit of a cunty thing to do?

I do. I think that was a shitty thing to do and you should have a really good look at yourself.