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to think that Toby Young is a complete arse?

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Rosebud05 · 17/03/2011 16:46

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kittya · 17/03/2011 19:56

I bet the uniform is designed by Boden

smallwhitecat · 17/03/2011 20:04

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kittya · 17/03/2011 20:09

Will the children be sitting gcse's as normal?

668neighbourofthebeast · 17/03/2011 20:11

Yes, he's a right royal arse. However, I agree with some of his points but I do think the school will siphon off much needed money from other schools in the borough which are seen as outstanding.

southeastastra · 17/03/2011 20:12

so he genuinely wants (and thinks) working class inner city kids need to learn latin

CointreauVersial · 17/03/2011 20:16

I'm not sure anyone "needs" to learn latin. Class has nothing to do with it.

2cats2many · 17/03/2011 20:22

The DfE are now saying that they will rewrite the admissions code so that parents who are 'involved' in setting up free schools will get guarrenteed admission into the schools they help to establish. this is despie initially saying that free schools would have to use the established admissions code.

Some say this is fair enough because, after all, they have put in the work to establish the school so shoud be given places.

Others say that it is a way for middle class parents to divert much-needed funds into setting up their own pet educational projects to the detriment of surrounding state-funded schools.

And by the way HantsPants/Toby- non free schools also strive for academic rigour, discipline and order, so please give it a rest with all that shite.

NormanTebbit · 17/03/2011 20:23

So this 'free school' is funded by the tax payer but he gets to say who attends and what they learn?

Rosebud05 · 17/03/2011 20:23

There are lots of positive benefits to learning any language, Latin included. My preference would be for 'proper subjects' tbh.

According to his school's website, they aim for 100% of pupils to achieve +6 'proper subject' GCSEs. So that's anyone with SEN out. Dunno what they'll do with kids that aren't predicted to make the grade.

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smallwhitecat · 17/03/2011 20:27

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Rosebud05 · 17/03/2011 20:28

Yes, Norman. 20 charities have been turfed out of a building in Hammersmith to make way for it.

Refurbishment will be hugely expensive at a time when other state schools are having their budgets cut and let us not forget that the whole 'Building for the future' for schools was hacketed by the government almost the morning after they won the election.

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moondog · 17/03/2011 20:28

SN/SEN is such a vague and subjective term as to be virtually meaningless tbh.

smallwhitecat · 17/03/2011 20:29

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Rosebud05 · 17/03/2011 20:30

Fair enough, swc. Most people with SEN and plenty more besides. Although the Free School does say that it has to agree to be named in Statements, which isn't usually the case?

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smallwhitecat · 17/03/2011 20:32

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NormanTebbit · 17/03/2011 20:32

Wow.

And he wonders why people are irritated by his arrogance and sense of entitlement.

Rosebud05 · 17/03/2011 20:33

That wasn't how it was explained to me by someone whose child is statemented, so I'm happy to be corrected in such a charming manner.

However, my broader point about what they'll do in regard to children who aren't predicted to achieve 6+ GCSEs stands.

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smallwhitecat · 17/03/2011 20:33

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Rosebud05 · 17/03/2011 20:37

No, it's a very difficult time for State schools as their budgets hence TAs are being brutally and very quickly cut.

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668neighbourofthebeast · 17/03/2011 20:38

I very much doubt the free school would be populated with inner city working class kids. Perhaps inner city middle class kids.

I wish I could find the article Daisy Waugh wrote about it in The Sunday Times a few weeks ago. It made me very cross.

moondog · 17/03/2011 20:42

AH, THE DETRACTORS hhave woven their spell on you. Do you know what Fiona Millar said in opposition to it

'If it's good, then everyone will want to go.'

Er, yes, that's the whole point!!

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NormanTebbit · 17/03/2011 20:42

Well if it does well (as it will be teeming with little Poppies and Giles') then all that will happen is the catchment will get smaller, house prices around will rise and do will standards as children from fisadvataged backgrounds are edged out.

It's like a school gated community.

moondog · 17/03/2011 20:44

SWC I tihnk thewre is massive potential for kids with SEN (whatever that menas) to have charter schools which would make the LEAs hide their heads in shame.

All that money, all those resources, all those staff and most are shite.

I'd bloody love to work in one. Some collaegues and I are thinking about it quite seriously.

NormanTebbit · 17/03/2011 20:45

Well you are fortunate yo be able yo choose private education then SWC.