To think breast fed babies are more intellegent

[thecatamongthepidgeons]

Because their parents tend to be more intellegent not because they were breast fed?
More intellegent parents are more likely to choose to breast feed regardless of any dificulties they face if they think it will benefit their children.

oh my word Mila I cannot believe you are using the words breastfeeding obesity and inconsequential in the same sentence.

oh the irony.

I feel really sorry for women who's only achievement and feeling of self worth comes from breastfeeding. I am the sum of so much more. Really pity those women.

Ruby, You really are trying to stir the shit and make people angry. I find your post really insensitive and naive.

I am actually fuming here I can't construct a proper reply.

You need to get out more,maybe take a holiday away from your cosy little hut in the UK and grow some.

If you can provide the stats for FF babies abroad who have suffered from FF please post them right here. (Ok we all know about the China baby milk scare but throw something different at us)

I cant believe how a mother can be so immature and offensive over the issue.

onlion I actually pity more women who's only sense of self worth is gained by making other women feel like shit.

so this baby didn't get a raw deal?

this is pretty much a raw deal

I am sure babies everywhere thank you :)

3 babies - 1 BF for 8 weeks - now gifted and talented, 1 FF from 2 weeks - considered advanced and gifted (aged 6) 1 2 year old FF from 2 weeks - seems not to be a total eejit

bottom line - I FED them - how is inconsequencial - NOT FEEDING THEM would have been neglect - the rest is just the judgemental spouting of people who loose an argument with some valid points by being smug :)

Raw deal bollocks. I'll tell you what a raw deal is.A raw deal is twin new born babies having to cope daily with a sobbing mother loathing every minute of bf,who dreads every feed and thus every cuddle with her babies.

A raw deal are 3 babies seriously dehydrated due to bf,hungry,exhausted and bewildered.

A raw deal is a baby in SCBU because her mother battled on bf far too long, when a bottle of formula would have saved both said baby and her mother a lot of suffering and anxiety.

Sorry Ruby your posts are crap and just the same old predictable bullying abuse this subject causes. Far too many women are obsessed with bf to the extent they obsess about other peoples children. It's sad and deeply concerning.

hobnobs these are oft the same women

how can one side get angry and that is acceptable but the other side can't get angry as that is unacceptable. that is just not fair.

usually i don't get angry about this. but actually someone should get bloody angry about this ridiculous situation where babies are not breastfed unnecessarily.

ruby the the trouble is when you wade in gins blazing you just rile and alienate people.

but Mila the situations you describe are obviously special situations. situations that i am NOT referring too. obviously!

Well said Milamai !

The baby on the right is what my bf daughter looked like before checking into SCBU so quit posting it. It has no relevance to mothers in this country.

No one has ever succeeded at anything they are bullied into doing most succeed with help and encouragement.

My pleasure.

However if you take the time to read the posts you will see that, like me, many have a selection of DCs and have done both BF and FF.

One of my DCs was born at 28wks and I could NOT feed him myself for 7 weeks. He was mixed fed and he needed it.

I hardly think that any of my children have been given a raw deal simply because I could or could not feed them. Maybe you have had a child in SCBU for months on end. Maybe you have had a baby lose 1/3 of his body weight in two weeks at 6 months. But if you haven't perhaps you should open your eyes and see that we're not giving them a raw deal, simply making use of the next best thing.

Incidentally, for all those weeks I couldn't feed my baby I was cow in the milking room providing my milk for babies in SCBU who's mummies couldn't produce milk because they were too ill.

ruby

When my milk didnt come in due to retained placental tissue, what should I have done?

What should my sister, delivered by EMCS at 27 weeks of my eldest nephew and in HDU and far too ill to BF have done?

You stupid, ignorant, silly woman.

onlion

but Mila the situations you describe are obviously special situations. situations that i am NOT referring too. obviously!

...... and vice versa!

TSC

I love you Milamae

It was kind of you to post that picture Ruby to redress the claims that formula feeding leads to overfeeding and obesity.

THanks for that.

and TSC

But power, dont forget that all mothers who FF are stupid and don't give the correct amount of formula as they can't read or measure so obviously that leads to Obesity!

Ruby I have 3 very bright children,free readers at 4.

I've read to them since they were babies,have listed to them read every single night since starting school.

Shall I bully you into doing the same,use the vocabulary you use,post pictures of illiterate teenagers because their mothers are clearly worthless,who have failed their children and are not up to my parenting standards???

Clearly I'd be flamed within an inch of my life,quite rightly.

GET SOME PERSPECTIVE!!!!!!!!